How common is torque dip?

[Sarlacc]

Originally Posted by Tcoat

... I have no idea the impact on an AT...

Me neither.
I've driven my AT as a city cruiser, in manual mode on the track, and blasting along winding mountain roads in Sport mode.
I've never noticed the torque dip.

[Tcoat]

Originally Posted by raven1231

No dip in those, the only issue is our top end runs out of steam on the stock tune because of the small twin scroll turbo. OTS maps take care of this though.

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Ummm from 6000 up is the very definition of a "dip" the difference is that it doesn't recover from it. Like you said it can be fixed by a tune but so can just about every other dip on all the cars. Stock tunes are a compromise of efficiency, emission controls and power and sometimes result in some undesired results in one area or the other.

[raven1231]

Originally Posted by Tcoat

Ummm from 6000 up is the very definition of a "dip" the difference is that it doesn't recover from it. Like you said it can be fixed by a tune but so can just about every other dip on all the cars. Stock tunes are a compromise of efficiency, emission controls and power and sometimes result in some undesired results in one area or the other.

Yeah, I guess that's true but due to its location is seems more of a tapering power band than dip in the middle. I get what you're saying though, and regardless has the same outcome either way I suppose.

[go_a_way1]

haha, my car had headers and a tune in the first 1000km's when I will still breaking it in so I never felt it once

[HunterGreene]

I came into this thread thinking it would end up being a complete troll-fest (mostly because I saw @Tcoat posted). But I am pleasantly surprised and have been enjoying the read. Great info here, folks.

[Andrew025]

Originally Posted by raven1231

No dip in those, the only issue is our top end runs out of steam on the stock tune because of the small twin scroll turbo. OTS maps take care of this though.

This is the 1 thing I haven't gotten used to yet. Every car I've owned has always been high revving and generally making more torque the higher the RPM.
Always feel weird when I'm driving it hard. Especially after having the JRSC in my BRZ.

[MuseChaser]

Can you fix, or at least accommodate, the torque dip with a potato chip?

[Tcoat]

Originally Posted by HunterGreene

I came into this thread thinking it would end up being a complete troll-fest (mostly because I saw @Tcoat posted). But I am pleasantly surprised and have been enjoying the read. Great info here, folks.

Hey!
If you were around more often you would know I have sucked all the joy I can out of joke trolling and now actually try to be nice (there are still exceptions though).

[Andrew025]

Originally Posted by MuseChaser

Can you fix, or at least accommodate, the torque dip with a potato chip?

Only if it has ruffles.

[Tcoat]

Originally Posted by MuseChaser

Can you fix, or at least accommodate, the torque dip with a potato chip?

Yes

[raven1231]

Originally Posted by Andrew025

This is the 1 thing I haven't gotten used to yet. Every car I've owned has always been high revving and generally making more torque the higher the RPM.
Always feel weird when I'm driving it hard. Especially after having the JRSC in my BRZ.

I know. It definitely seems like an issue with these cars and the ecoboost's which utilize smaller turbos for low end grunt, but as a result lack on the top end, at least on the stock tune.

I'm not really use to it either lol

[Andrew025]

Originally Posted by Tcoat

Yes

Hey bro, that's not a potato chip.

You trying to mess his car up?

[dvasqu01]

Originally Posted by etherdude

I'd like to add that the useful torque from 1500 - 3000 rpm is just fine. I drive my FR-S like an econobox around town utilizing the lower torque curve. Between 2000 and 3000, the engine responds well, will pull (albeit gradually) from in 5th gear quite nicely. I cruise below 40 mph in 5th most of the time and can shift into 6th at 40 IF I am not climbing a hill. I find I can short shift and get over 30 mpg consistently (as high as 34 mpg). However, whenever I want to run it up, then the powerband kicks in quite nicely above 4500 rpm.

Net, Net. I do not find the torque dip a particular issue since the engine pulls pretty well at lower RPM. I can drive the car up to 70 mph in 6th gear (3000 rpm) and still have decent highway acceleration. I can shift down to 4th for stronger acceleration from 45-70+.

My use of the gears:

1st - From a stop to 15 (nanny mode) or 35 (gonzo mode)
2nd - Accelerate up to 35 (nanny mode) or up to 55 (gonzo mode)
3rd - Constant speed at 25 mph (nanny mode) or stronger acceleration 35-50
4th - Constant speed at 30 mph (nanny mode) or stronger acceleration 45-70+
5th - Cruise at 35-40mph (nanny mode) or stronger acceleration 55 - 70+
6th - Highway cruise 40 and higher, decent acceleration above 70 mph.

Yo bro how the hell do you get 30 + mpg


I'll give you the rice noodle😘

[Tcoat]

Originally Posted by Andrew025

Hey bro, that's not a potato chip.

You trying to mess his car up?

True, it will require an adaptor.