Carbon Exterior parts and Lip Kit!!!!

[staycrushing]

Sooooooo.... us FRS guys in the next month or so will have A LOT of carbon parts available... working with a local manufacturer to make this happen.

Can't wait for this to be released to the public!!! I will be aiding with this project and the re sell of such product.

Cannot release too many details, but check back on this thread for updates.

parts to watch out for...

front lip, rear carbon add on, side skirts... (also full poly kit)

carbon fenders, hood, roof and trunk!!!

other carbon parts will be released as well but cannot reveal until they are about to launch!!!

[skoodge]

Carbon spoiler please

[staycrushing]

that should be in the works too. i think on my car personally i will be running a flat black spoiler and the trunk garnish in flat black for contrast.

spoiler will be tasteful and not too aggressive most likely a lip style spoiler.

[WingsofWar]

Carbon replacements are going to be a hard sell in this site OP..and it isn't like this car is heavy.

The aluminum hood is already very light, and if you are going to push a carbon replacement it needs to be properly vented (preferably reverse vented) as well as dry carbon-carbon composite and not Carbon FRP which will probably add weight over factory.

I am guessing your carbon products will be plenty expensive trying to retain performance and additional gains over stock.

But i am interested in your polyurethane parts.

Can't wait to see what you have in store...you should try to give us a teaser.

[staycrushing]

That is one way of looking at it and I do appreciate the input, hood will be vented...

As far as carbon frp goes it will in fact be that... Dry carbon is too expensive for such a car (if some company does take the risk I do tip my hat to them) but being a 25k car most carbon stuff will be for looks...

In the broad scope of things this car is marketed as a scion and will attract a certain clientele on top of the performance/track guys. The 18-25 "tuner crowd" and most people love the look of carbon and do not necessarily care about the performance aspects and weight reduction part of it.

I love dry carbon and would rock it in a heartbeat... But when a properly vacuumed almost resin less proper dry carbon hood or other parts are produced the cost and final market price is just too costly to effectively market and sell to the general public.

[Memphis]

Ok I keep seeing the word roof with carbon fiber. How do you install a roof let alone take the original off to put on the carbon roof? Is it hard or is this piece just an adhesive?

[86design]

Hey staycrushing....your name wouldn't happen to be Robert? would it?

[WingsofWar]

Originally Posted by staycrushing

That is one way of looking at it and I do appreciate the input, hood will be vented...

As far as carbon frp goes it will in fact be that... Dry carbon is too expensive for such a car (if some company does take the risk I do tip my hat to them) but being a 25k car most carbon stuff will be for looks...

In the broad scope of things this car is marketed as a scion and will attract a certain clientele on top of the performance/track guys. The 18-25 "tuner crowd" and most people love the look of carbon and do not necessarily care about the performance aspects and weight reduction part of it.

I love dry carbon and would rock it in a heartbeat... But when a properly vacuumed almost resin less proper dry carbon hood or other parts are produced the cost and final market price is just too costly to effectively market and sell to the general public.

Some marketing demographics for you to consider,
Unfortunately the "18-25" age group of tuners has changed in the past 5 years and we are seeing less and less of the rice rocket movement. (although the stance movement has increased exponentially) Meaning that the age group actually have some knowledge and car for their cars than before. The BRZ/FRS general age group of current owners is also (most particularly in this site) is 25-40. So even if you still have a market for that old "young tuner" mentality..its going to be very small with such a wide age difference in owners under a single car based on association.

Also for those looking for the aesthetic and looks, the most popular trend rising is carbon vinyl wrap, which can be had at similar price of a non-performance oriented carbon piece..without worrying about fitment and quality.

So if your trying to push for Carbon FRP in this particular car segment..your going to have a rough patch.

Although Carbon FRP is still good low cost options for those who want a front splitter, and a rear diffuser, and you should capitalize on those items which are sought after but lack current solutions.

Originally Posted by Memphis

Ok I keep seeing the word roof with carbon fiber. How do you install a roof let alone take the original off to put on the carbon roof? Is it hard or is this piece just an adhesive?

The Zx6 roof can be detached and is not a structural part of the main frame, much like Recent WRX imprezas and a few BMWs. Subaru does have a Carbon Roof installed in their '11 BRZ STI Concept, which is displayed on their STI catalog, but i don't think its a part you can purchase yet.

[rcm47]

I can't wait to see a nice front lip. I want something like the Sti one.

[Fly Guy]

How about the upper side mirror part?

[Dimman]

Wet layup epoxy resin with light carbon fabric, vacuumed and baked can come pretty close to autoclaved dry prepreg carbon in strength and weight.

[noAE86]

Originally Posted by WingsofWar

Carbon replacements are going to be a hard sell in this site OP..and it isn't like this car is heavy.

The aluminum hood is already very light, and if you are going to push a carbon replacement it needs to be properly vented (preferably reverse vented) as well as dry carbon-carbon composite and not Carbon FRP which will probably add weight over factory.

I am guessing your carbon products will be plenty expensive trying to retain performance and additional gains over stock.

But i am interested in your polyurethane parts.

Can't wait to see what you have in store...you should try to give us a teaser.

agreed
if its not dry carbon composite then its too heavy, buying parts that are equal to or heaver then stock is meaningless, maybe for silly show cars, and the whole concept of the gt86 was to be a light, rwd, drivers car,

not sure about pricing in usa but kevlar of the same weight/weave of carbon is only 9% more expensive, (of cause he was buying 12 rolls a time)

[francosolracer]

In for updates

[Dimman]

Originally Posted by noAE86

agreed
if its not dry carbon composite then its too heavy, buying parts that are equal to or heaver then stock is meaningless, maybe for silly show cars, and the whole concept of the gt86 was to be a light, rwd, drivers car,

not sure about pricing in usa but kevlar of the same weight/weave of carbon is only 9% more expensive, (of cause he was buying 12 rolls a time)

In Canada kevlar's a bit over half the price of carbon (5oz kev vs 5.6oz carbon both plain weave).

But why kevlar? It's ugly, a nuissance to work, and not anywhere near as rigid.