Scion prices really non-negotiable?

[Kaotic Lazagna]

Originally Posted by Impureclient

So you're saying each one of those cars(approx 34 million total) going off the lot is costing the dealership $800 to sell it. That is hard to believe. That would be a roughly $27 billion dollar loss for those three cars having been sold.

Yup, you would laugh at our spreadsheet for those cars.

The car buying market has completely changed. Profit is very minimal on new cars. Dealership make their money on servicing cars and on pre-owned cars.

Just to clarify, that -800 was one example. I believe our running average is more near -300 for Prius LB.

[Kaotic Lazagna]

Originally Posted by Hotrodheart

Fair enough. For the record, my FICO is above 550. My loam is 0.9%; you may draw whatever conclusion from that you care to. I guess all we have left to haggle with is the undercoating, paint coating, mud flaps, etc.

Were you a recent college graduate? If you were, that enables you to get tier 1 interest rates, despite what ever your score is. If not, then I don't know what your dealership did. They may have used a credit union to get that 0.9%.

[soulreapersteve]

Originally Posted by xuimod

What kind of interest rate did you end up getting?

8%. Still high but don't really care since I'm planning on paying off the car entirely by next spring to late summer.

After that, start saving for next car or house..

[Kaotic Lazagna]

Originally Posted by soulreapersteve

8%. Still high but don't really care since I'm planning on paying off the car entirely by next spring to late summer.

After that, start saving for next car or house..

Just a side note, I'd wait until at least 12 months have passed by before paying off the car completely. As long as you haven't had a late payment, that should help build your score.

[soulreapersteve]

Originally Posted by Kaotic Lazagna

Just a side note, I'd wait until at least 12 months have passed by before paying off the car completely. As long as you haven't had a late payment, that should help build your score.

Already know that :P

It'll be my 1 year anniversary next June. Spent so much time on financial research before buying this car. x.x

[Kaotic Lazagna]

Originally Posted by soulreapersteve

Already know that :P

It'll be my 1 year anniversary next June. Spent so much time on financial research before buying this car. x.x

Ah, you're one of the well-informed buyers. I like those customers since they're the most realistic.

[caliprep]

Originally Posted by S84kam

That bs scion no haggling is retarded. When I was shopping for a brz and FRS. I had haggled a 3000$ off.

I basically said. Either you give me a discount or I buy a brz

It's different when it comes to outright buying the car or big down than lets say LEASING, or small down + monthly.

For lease, I know for a fact they cannot go down the number that is advertised. Was one of the reasons why I bought the car, was able to take off 2Kish, so drove away in a brand new 15' for 26K.

[Hotrodheart]

Originally Posted by Kaotic Lazagna

Were you a recent college graduate? If you were, that enables you to get tier 1 interest rates, despite what ever your score is. If not, then I don't know what your dealership did. They may have used a credit union to get that 0.9%.

59 y.o. And not attending school at the moment. A bit above Scion's target demographic.

[soulreapersteve]

Originally Posted by Kaotic Lazagna

Ah, you're one of the well-informed buyers. I like those customers since they're the most realistic.

Yup, I'm a money whore and being that it was my first car purchase with no credit history, I already knew what to expect.

Sales guy did the best he could with Toyota Financial to get as low numbers as possible. Happy that he went out of his way for me since he knew I really wanted the car.

His words: "I'm not here to rip you off and ask you to take on a loan that you can't pay off, especially at these numbers and at your age. Let's see what I can do."

The dude even hand wrote me a letter saying thank you and call his personal phone if I ever needed anything regarding the car!

[S84kam]

Originally Posted by soulreapersteve

His words: "I'm not here to rip you off and ask you to take on a loan that you can't pay off, especially at these numbers and at your age. Let's see what I can do."

The dude even hand wrote me a letter saying thank you and call his personal phone if I ever needed anything regarding the car!

Must be your first car all salesman pretend to be your friend. You should of asked for his daughters number too!

[02.ACCORD.DUDE]

The dealerships I talked to in NJ weren't willing to negotiate, most of them considered throwing in some freebies or discounted winter tires or something - but I probably would have had to push them a bit more to get them to fully consent to the things they were "kicking around"...

[soulreapersteve]

Originally Posted by S84kam

Must be your first car all salesman pretend to be your friend. You should of asked for his daughters number too!

I honestly don't really care if he pretended or not. Still gave me good service and didn't brush me away when he first saw me.

[MokSpeed]

It applies to current model year vehicles only.

[Arrehenius]

Just wait till December! Scion was offering 4k off year end models, also managed to get winter tires thrown in for free.