Scion prices really non-negotiable?

[MrDinkleman]

Thanks, thanks, thanks to everybody! (keep them ideas coming)


I don't have a trade-in and CPO or used is not an option; I don't like buying used cars (CPO or not) because I am very risk-averse.

[Kaotic Lazagna]

Originally Posted by MrDinkleman

Thanks, thanks, thanks to everybody! (keep them ideas coming)


I don't have a trade-in and CPO or used is not an option; I don't like buying used cars (CPO or not) because I am very risk-averse.

Best time would be now. For the dealerships that do follow the Scion selling philosophy, like mine, we can take off $1k on any remaining 2015 models. The challenge you'll go up against is finding one with minimal test drive miles on it.

[MrDinkleman]

Originally Posted by Kaotic Lazagna

Best time would be now. For the dealerships that do follow the Scion selling philosophy, like mine, we can take off $1k on any remaining 2015 models. The challenge you'll go up against is finding one with minimal test drive miles on it.

Does your dealership pre-install those aftermarket security systems that the "Finance Guy" tries to upsell to people? If they do, when are they installed, like how soon after the dealership takes delivery?

[ConceptX]

I got about $1100 off the sticker price on a 2015 FR-S on July 31. I purchased a 2011 xB in September 2010, and the same dealership wouldn't budge on price. I had to aggressively negotiate the trade-in. I got just under $1000 off a 2007 tC in July 2007 that someone special ordered with the flare kit and then abandoned. I agree with @Kaotic_Lazagna that looking for a low mileage 2015 is your best bet.

[soulreapersteve]

Man, I paid 31 out the door for mine. Would've been 29 after taxes and fees if I didn't get the extended warranty.

Oh well, I got the color I wanted, 1st owner of the car and a great rate considering I have no credit history at that time (They were trying to get me at 16% but I said hell no!) Had to put down a large downpayment.

No regrets!

[Impureclient]

Originally Posted by MrDinkleman

Thanks, thanks, thanks to everybody! (keep them ideas coming)


I don't have a trade-in and CPO or used is not an option; I don't like buying used cars (CPO or not) because I am very risk-averse.

I totally felt the same way and going into the dealer, I had no intention of buying used at all.
The thing is that a certified is the same as buying a new one with the warranty coming with it. If you can shave off a few thousand or like I did, $4k, it really makes sense financially.

[xuimod]

Originally Posted by Kaotic Lazagna

Nope. We have to submit finance rates with every Scion sold, it has to match EXACTLY. We cannot even be 0.01% off. Also, if you (using "you" in general here) have a 550 score, you really should not expect any type of low(er) interest rate. It's really irritating when a customer is bitching about 11.99%, and they have a sub 600 score.

11.99% is still super high. If I had credit score of 590 (which is not extremely low) I would be super pissed if the best a dealership could do was 11.99%.

[Impureclient]

Originally Posted by Kaotic Lazagna

Cars such as the Prius (family), Corolla, and Camry end up being losers for the dealership. I find it hilarious how customers tell me there's still "wiggle room" even after I've shown them I'm losing 800 bucks to sell them a car.

So you're saying each one of those cars(approx 34 million total) going off the lot is costing the dealership $800 to sell it. That is hard to believe. That would be a roughly $27 billion dollar loss for those three cars having been sold.

[xuimod]

Originally Posted by ConceptX

I got about $1100 off the sticker price on a 2015 FR-S on July 31. I purchased a 2011 xB in September 2010, and the same dealership wouldn't budge on price. I had to aggressively negotiate the trade-in. I got just under $1000 off a 2007 tC in July 2007 that someone special ordered with the flare kit and then abandoned. I agree with @Kaotic_Lazagna that looking for a low mileage 2015 is your best bet.

Lol... sounds like you have some kind of love affair with Scions.

[ConceptX]

Originally Posted by xuimod

Lol... sounds like you have some kind of love affair with Scions.

Wait... we aren't supposed to collect the whole set?!?!?

[Kaotic Lazagna]

Originally Posted by MrDinkleman

Does your dealership pre-install those aftermarket security systems that the "Finance Guy" tries to upsell to people? If they do, when are they installed, like how soon after the dealership takes delivery?

My dealership doesn't do addendums. We have one thing on the cars, and it's optional to the customer if they want to continue that service (theft reimbursement).

[Hotrodheart]

Originally Posted by Kaotic Lazagna

Nope. We have to submit finance rates with every Scion sold, it has to match EXACTLY. We cannot even be 0.01% off. Also, if you (using "you" in general here) have a 550 score, you really should not expect any type of low(er) interest rate. It's really irritating when a customer is bitching about 11.99%, and they have a sub 600 score.

Fair enough. For the record, my FICO is above 550. My loam is 0.9%; you may draw whatever conclusion from that you care to. I guess all we have left to haggle with is the undercoating, paint coating, mud flaps, etc.

[xuimod]

Originally Posted by soulreapersteve

Man, I paid 31 out the door for mine. Would've been 29 after taxes and fees if I didn't get the extended warranty.

Oh well, I got the color I wanted, 1st owner of the car and a great rate considering I have no credit history at that time (They were trying to get me at 16% but I said hell no!) Had to put down a large downpayment.

No regrets!

What kind of interest rate did you end up getting?

[Kaotic Lazagna]

Originally Posted by xuimod

11.99% is still super high. If I had credit score of 590 (which is not extremely low) I would be super pissed if the best a dealership could do was 11.99%.

It's the going rates from lenders. Dealerships aren't exactly the ones that sets those.

a 590 score is considered a poor score, btw.

http://www.thecarconnection.com/tips...w-car-purchase

Instead of putting blame on the dealership, people need to take responsibility upon themselves for the interest rate their credit score affords. Now, that's not saying that you should accept a 10% interest rate if you have a 720+ score...that's a f*cked up dealership and I've heard stories from customers who got raped by those traditional sleazy dealershps.

Arm yourself with some knowledge. Research what the manufacturer's incentivized rates are and what your score (can't really base it off of your general score, so don't go into a dealership saying you have xxx score from Credit Karma, since it's not the same as your auto fico score). You can also have the dealership see if they work with a credit union to get a better APR for you.