Shifting during - Toyota GR86, 86, FR-S and Subaru BRZ Forum & Owners Community

Jfheisenberg · 10-07-2015, 10:14 PM

I noticed that when i shift to second gear when the car its still a bit cold the shift does not go and i have to try twice in order to shift successfully.

I have also niticed this when downshifting from third to second or sixth to third. My car has 12k miles. I will be taking the car for the 12k maintenance on friday and i will bring this up to subaru but just wondering if any of you guys know if this is normal.

Marcbrz86 · 10-07-2015, 10:23 PM

It's because the stock manual transmission fluid sucks
Get Motul Gear 300 manual transmission fluid makes a big difference

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Jfheisenberg · 10-07-2015, 10:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Marcbrz86

It's because the stock manual transmission fluid sucks
Get Motul Gear 300 manual transmission fluid makes a big difference

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so if i tell the dealer they wont do anything? how often is the manual fuild suppose to b changed ?

stevesnj · 10-07-2015, 10:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Marcbrz86

It's because the stock manual transmission fluid sucks
Get Motul Gear 300 manual transmission fluid makes a big difference

Yeh I switch a month ago to Motul, 2nd is less sticky but it's still there. I just run through the gate a few times all gears to just loosen things up a little

Marcbrz86 · 10-07-2015, 10:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Jfheisenberg

so if i tell the dealer they wont do anything? how often is the manual fuild suppose to b changed ?

Buy the Motul gear 300 take it to them depending how cool they are they'll do it for you or if not ask about the Subaru Extra S that ones pretty good too
I think you're supposed to change trans oil every 22k miles or every 2 years

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ajcarson11 · 10-08-2015, 12:53 AM

When the synchros in the transmission are cold they don't like to work as smoothly.

Solution: When vehicle is cold, stay in first gear for a few extra seconds before you change into second gear. Yes, the engine will sound a bit loud and it'll feel weird staying in first gear, but you'll warm up the synchro in a matter of seconds and shifting into second will be nice and smooth. Problem solved!

humfrz · 10-08-2015, 03:23 AM

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Originally Posted by ajcarson11

When the synchros in the transmission are cold they don't like to work as smoothly.

Solution: When vehicle is cold, stay in first gear for a few extra seconds before you change into second gear. Yes, the engine will sound a bit loud and it'll feel weird staying in first gear, but you'll warm up the synchro in a matter of seconds and shifting into second will be nice and smooth. Problem solved!

In addition, what I do (after the cold engine has done it's start up dance ... plus about 10 seconds) is to wind up the engine to about 4,000 rpms, then pull (or push) the shift lever firmly but slowly through the gate, into the next gear.

Unless you're in a hurry to get away from your lady friends house/apartment before her husband gets home ....... what's your big hurry ......?? ........

humfrz

FRSBRZGT86FAN · 10-08-2015, 03:30 AM

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Originally Posted by humfrz

In addition, what I do (after the cold engine has done it's start up dance ... plus about 10 seconds) is to wind up the engine to about 4,000 rpms, then pull (or push) the shift lever firmly but slowly through the gate, into the next gear.

Unless you're in a hurry to get away from your lady friends house/apartment before her husband gets home ....... what's your big hurry ......?? ........

humfrz

Uhhhh.... oddly specific

Captain Snooze · 10-08-2015, 05:08 AM

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showt...light=fix+warm

chaoskaze · 10-08-2015, 10:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Jfheisenberg

so if i tell the dealer they wont do anything? how often is the manual fuild suppose to b changed ?

You can just ask dealer to put in the transmission fluid of ur choice, obviously u have to bring it to them.

Stock fluid has really good feel once warmed up but when it's cold...........ya......

I hate driving to work in the morning with stock fluid.

cdrazic93 · 10-08-2015, 10:44 PM

Did anyone else realize he said from 6th to 3rd...? A notchiness in shifting is the last thing im worrying about going from 6th to 3rd, unless im heel toeing at the track, lol

Jfheisenberg · 10-08-2015, 11:31 PM

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Originally Posted by cdrazic93

Did anyone else realize he said from 6th to 3rd...? A notchiness in shifting is the last thing im worrying about going from 6th to 3rd, unless im heel toeing at the track, lol

yeah and i dont do this often and if i do i rev match on the proper rpm, it was just odd that recently i noticed that the shift did not go on the first try.

axelo · 10-08-2015, 11:47 PM

Above advices, motul fluid and mtec shift springs

Trust86 · 10-09-2015, 12:34 AM

These transmissions LOVE to be rev match down shifting. I notice the same thing about 2nd gear when its cold, but I've also noticed when its cold I baby the hell out of it and take way to long to shift into 2nd and the rpms drop to idle. If your like me, try shifting a little quicker when its cold and should be easier. Double clutching helps too but that's not really necessary lol. and +1000 for motul

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10-07-2015, 10:23 PM	#2
Marcbrz86 Member Join Date: Sep 2014 Drives: 2015 Subaru BRZ Series Blue Location: California Posts: 84 Thanks: 8 Thanked 23 Times in 15 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	It's because the stock manual transmission fluid sucks Get Motul Gear 300 manual transmission fluid makes a big difference Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

10-08-2015, 12:53 AM	#6
ajcarson11 Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2015 Drives: 2013 Subaru BRZ Limited (Black) Location: Indianapolis Posts: 511 Thanks: 253 Thanked 206 Times in 149 Posts Mentioned: 3 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	When the synchros in the transmission are cold they don't like to work as smoothly. Solution: When vehicle is cold, stay in first gear for a few extra seconds before you change into second gear. Yes, the engine will sound a bit loud and it'll feel weird staying in first gear, but you'll warm up the synchro in a matter of seconds and shifting into second will be nice and smooth. Problem solved!

10-09-2015, 12:34 AM	#14
Trust86 Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2015 Drives: 2016 Halo FRS Location: US Posts: 414 Thanks: 290 Thanked 162 Times in 106 Posts Mentioned: 8 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	These transmissions LOVE to be rev match down shifting. I notice the same thing about 2nd gear when its cold, but I've also noticed when its cold I baby the hell out of it and take way to long to shift into 2nd and the rpms drop to idle. If your like me, try shifting a little quicker when its cold and should be easier. Double clutching helps too but that's not really necessary lol. and +1000 for motul

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