shifting into 2nd - Toyota GR86, 86, FR-S and Subaru BRZ Forum & Owners Community

cantaloupe · 10-15-2012, 11:42 PM

This is my first manual car so don't have much experience with shifting, but it seems difficult to shift the knob into second gear from first. It doesn't feel smooth and I kinda have to force it in there. Anyone else experience this? Is this normal?

Subie · 10-15-2012, 11:43 PM

How many miles are on your car? It will get easier in time. My gearbox was very tight for the first few hundred miles or so.

JDMenrique · 10-15-2012, 11:53 PM

I'm experiencing something similar, almost like its not as smooth as the other gears.

chandz05 · 10-15-2012, 11:56 PM

Yeah it's definitely tight for the first few hundred miles or so. I do feel some tightness when the car is cold, but once everything warms up, it feels fine

jmaryt · 10-16-2012, 12:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cantaloupe

This is my first manual car so don't have much experience with shifting, but it seems difficult to shift the knob into second gear from first. It doesn't feel smooth and I kinda have to force it in there. Anyone else experience this? Is this normal?

i hear ya! had a 2010 camaro, and the (m.t.6-speed) sucked for better than 20,000
miles before it started smoothing out,but what can ya expect from the general's crap?..ironically, the tranny in the camaro was an "aisin" japanese built!..go figure!

TSY · 10-16-2012, 12:07 AM

What car are you coming from? It's definitely a direct mechanical shift, but it's not going to be as 'easy' to shift as a 10 year old Mazda Miata.

This shifts are more difficult when the car is cold, but once it warms up it shifts nicely.

Just be patient with the shifts and don't force it, it'll get easier as you drive it more.

Flat Black VW · 10-16-2012, 12:18 AM

depends on what you are coming from, the solid shift feel is one thing I like about this car, nothing like a buttery trans from a ten year old POS.

TheSt|G · 10-16-2012, 12:20 AM

Only issue I have had is a resistant first gear shift once, so I just shifted down into second and immediately back up to first. Fixed it without issue.

Yruyur · 10-16-2012, 01:27 AM

Find another frs to test drive. Mine is much different than the six others that I have driven now. First and second are nit easy to get into. My clutch is much harder to push than all the others even after clutch pedal adjustment.

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serialk11r · 10-16-2012, 01:49 AM

1st-2nd shift is always going to be a little harder since they have the greatest difference in gear ratio and a greater rpm drop for the synchros to match. It happens on a lot of cars.

carbonBLUE · 10-16-2012, 02:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cantaloupe

This is my first manual car so don't have much experience with shifting, but it seems difficult to shift the knob into second gear from first. It doesn't feel smooth and I kinda have to force it in there. Anyone else experience this? Is this normal?

start the car and let it idle in neutral for a few minutes, it warms the transmission up because it is in neutral and it spins the main gear shaft that is connected to the clutch and that starts to warm up and lube the transmission, test it out and see if that helps cold shifting

Yruyur · 10-16-2012, 02:04 AM

There are a couple other threads on upgrading the fluid which makes a difference. I'm gonna have Toyota look at mine again because it's not right.

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Nardi330 · 10-16-2012, 02:31 AM

mine is the same. 2nd is hard to engage when cold and even when warm it's a hit & miss affair. i will change gearbox oil and install Perrin shift bush and Cusco gearbox collar. hopefully it will get better.

jmaryt · 10-16-2012, 05:08 AM

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Originally Posted by serialk11r

1st-2nd shift is always going to be a little harder since they have the greatest difference in gear ratio and a greater rpm drop for the synchros to match. It happens on a lot of cars.

also,more "inertia" to overcome in the lower gears!

10-15-2012, 11:42 PM	#1
cantaloupe Member Join Date: Sep 2012 Drives: brz Location: california Posts: 66 Thanks: 0 Thanked 3 Times in 2 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	shifting into 2nd This is my first manual car so don't have much experience with shifting, but it seems difficult to shift the knob into second gear from first. It doesn't feel smooth and I kinda have to force it in there. Anyone else experience this? Is this normal?

10-16-2012, 12:18 AM	#7
Flat Black VW Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Drives: 2013 Subaru BRZ Location: NOVA Posts: 894 Thanks: 227 Thanked 343 Times in 202 Posts Mentioned: 8 Post(s) Tagged: 1 Thread(s)	depends on what you are coming from, the solid shift feel is one thing I like about this car, nothing like a buttery trans from a ten year old POS. __________________ Build Thread: http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=43355

10-16-2012, 01:27 AM	#9
Yruyur Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Drives: Scion fr-s asphalt M/T Location: Phoenix, AZ Posts: 4,192 Thanks: 1,416 Thanked 1,631 Times in 941 Posts Mentioned: 96 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Find another frs to test drive. Mine is much different than the six others that I have driven now. First and second are nit easy to get into. My clutch is much harder to push than all the others even after clutch pedal adjustment. Sent from my SCH-I535 using Tapatalk 2 __________________

10-16-2012, 02:04 AM	#12
Yruyur Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Drives: Scion fr-s asphalt M/T Location: Phoenix, AZ Posts: 4,192 Thanks: 1,416 Thanked 1,631 Times in 941 Posts Mentioned: 96 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	There are a couple other threads on upgrading the fluid which makes a difference. I'm gonna have Toyota look at mine again because it's not right. Sent from my SCH-I535 using Tapatalk 2 __________________

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10-15-2012, 11:43 PM	#2
Subie Señor Member Join Date: Apr 2012 Drives: 2013 SSM DZE BRZ Location: SC Posts: 947 Thanks: 728 Thanked 405 Times in 196 Posts Mentioned: 4 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	How many miles are on your car? It will get easier in time. My gearbox was very tight for the first few hundred miles or so.

10-15-2012, 11:56 PM	#4
chandz05 Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2012 Drives: CBS BRZ limited MT Location: Atlanta, GA Posts: 151 Thanks: 38 Thanked 26 Times in 23 Posts Mentioned: 2 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Yeah it's definitely tight for the first few hundred miles or so. I do feel some tightness when the car is cold, but once everything warms up, it feels fine

10-16-2012, 12:20 AM	#8
TheSt\|G Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2012 Drives: BRZ L 6MT, 128i 6MT, E39 M5, E36 M3 Location: Pennsylvania Posts: 229 Thanks: 65 Thanked 97 Times in 54 Posts Mentioned: 1 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Only issue I have had is a resistant first gear shift once, so I just shifted down into second and immediately back up to first. Fixed it without issue.

10-16-2012, 02:31 AM	#13
Nardi330 Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2011 Drives: 86 Location: Brisbane Australia Posts: 2,168 Thanks: 287 Thanked 374 Times in 264 Posts Mentioned: 9 Post(s) Tagged: 1 Thread(s)	mine is the same. 2nd is hard to engage when cold and even when warm it's a hit & miss affair. i will change gearbox oil and install Perrin shift bush and Cusco gearbox collar. hopefully it will get better.

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