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Old 06-04-2012, 08:54 PM   #183
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Did they charge you for the floor mats? If so, you may want to go back and point out to them those were standard equipment.
Oh... Which mats are considered standard?
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Old 06-04-2012, 09:43 PM   #184
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Oh... Which mats are considered standard?
This cloth mats with the FR-S logos. Check the SCION.COM website for confirmation. Of course, if you've signed the deal, there may not be much of an out for you. This is unusual for Scion/Toyota, they usually do charge for them.
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Old 06-04-2012, 09:57 PM   #185
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The scion dealer around me is as scummy as they come so I went with the Subaru dealer that my family has dealt with in the past.
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Old 06-04-2012, 11:01 PM   #186
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http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/...or_comparison/

I hear more and more professionals saying the BRZ is better...like the guy in this article ^

Just sayin =P
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Old 06-05-2012, 02:48 AM   #187
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This cloth mats with the FR-S logos. Check the SCION.COM website for confirmation. Of course, if you've signed the deal, there may not be much of an out for you. This is unusual for Scion/Toyota, they usually do charge for them.
Actually, floor mats come standard according to my window sticker, though, the matching trunk mat isn't ($95). The bumper applique is listed on the sticker as $69, and the Whiteout paint color itself was $220.

...I could do without the applique, but it was already on the car, and I can live with the trunk mat. The sales girl was nice and the finance didn't just beat the Toyota/Scion interest rate--he beat it twice and had me re-sign our contract, so I'm good. They didn't do any ridiculous add-ons like the other local dealers we visited, so I'm okay to leave things as-is.

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Old 06-05-2012, 12:33 PM   #188
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Actually, floor mats come standard according to my window sticker, though, the matching trunk mat isn't ($95). The bumper applique is listed on the sticker as $69, and the Whiteout paint color itself was $220.

...I could do without the applique, but it was already on the car, and I can live with the trunk mat. The sales girl was nice and the finance didn't just beat the Toyota/Scion interest rate--he beat it twice and had me re-sign our contract, so I'm good. They didn't do any ridiculous add-ons like the other local dealers we visited, so I'm okay to leave things as-is.
Didn't realize you were talking about the trunk mat, you are correct that's an add-on.
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Didn't realize you were talking about the trunk mat, you are correct that's an add-on.
Yup, but it's a reasonable one, I guess. The other dealerships we visited had $495/$995 window tinting, $496/$995 Thermoguard, and $995 alarm or $3000 rims added, so my 2 add-ons were pretty minute in comparison.

I would still recommend them over most other dealerships in the area.

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How was your experience in purchasing your FR-S?
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How was your experience in purchasing your FR-S?
I was one of the 1st86 so it was a relatively decent experience, although mine was probably closer to your experience (standard purchase, no real fanfare) than some of the West Coast 1st86er's experiences!

No add-ons for mine, but I did have a very unreasonable doc fee of $599 which is standard at the particular dealer I used on all deals. Unfortunately I was locked in because of the 1st86 program.
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...I don't think it's in the form of just a straight markup--HOWEVER... some Toyota/Scion dealers are adding $995 window tinting, $995 Thermoguard, different rims, overpriced LoJack, overpriced alarms... etc, etc, etc.

I think I got pretty luck with mine. Just a bumper protector and floor mats from what I can tell anyway.
There were threads started by members here of markups without added features. In other words straight markups. This was during initial release/first allotments. May be different now.
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my opinion on the frs vs. brz.

before the cars were released and i thought the only differences were the badges i planned on going with the brz, simply for the subaru badge. (call me shallow, i know.)

but now that they're out and i've done more research i definitely want the frs more. even though the brz has the "premium" interior, i feel like overall the car has a cheaper feel to it. this is just my opinion and the feeling i get when i look at the 2. the parts that give me this impression are the front bumper- something about how much black plastic there is and the grill material combined with the different shape makes it seem less agressive. the front fender- i love how the frs has the 86 badge on it, imo both cars should be wearing that badge. the brz looks cheaper with just a line over a fake vent there. inside, the plain silver piece as opposed to the textured black piece in the frs makes it feel boring and unfinished as well as the plain black tach in the brz. the white back in the frs makes it pop. and draws your attention to the most important part.

but probably most of all i want the more lively suspension tuning they put on the frs.

now obviously these are both great cars and these are just my opinions, i haven't even seen the brz in person this is just going off of pics i've seen. but this is the feeling i get from both cars and i'm glad the frs's seem to be easier to get!
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Old 06-07-2012, 11:31 AM   #193
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This should probably be in the comparisons forum and not the member journals forum.

I guess everyone is entitled to their own opinions.. even if they are wrong..

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I think the suspension tuning is a worthless comparison because I suspect most of us will use aftermarket parts.. and they will render the stock suspension tuning a non-factor.

I like the BRZ front end much more.. I think the FRS nose sticks out too far like a snout and sort of looks funny.

I do agree with you on the interior trim pieces.. the BRZ silver does nothing for me. I think I like th FRS gauges a little better as well..

I disagree on the fender trim.. While I like the 86 logo, it's much too small on that space and the rest of that panel looks really awkward and bad. The BRZ is fender insert is much nicer.. expecially with the silver optional trim piece that I opted for.

For me.. the NAV was supposed to make the BRZ well worth the added money.. unfortunately, it's a crappy nav system. Still, the HID's, the subaru name, the exclusivity, the front end, and the seat materials make the Subaru easily the better choice.

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Old 06-07-2012, 11:56 AM   #194
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My thoughts are if you keep the suspension tuning stock and go to better stick tires it's going to create a little more understeer, which should make the FRS more neutral and the BRZ push more. Just my opinion.
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My opinion on the matter is why do you think yours matters more than anyone else's?

This has been rehashed over and over for months and months. People are going to pick the car they like. That either of these cars exist is what is awesome. No need for divisiveness.

Also I got OEM HID, eat it :p.
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Old 06-07-2012, 12:07 PM   #196
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From the get go I was open to getting any version of the car. I just looked at what each was offering and decided, based on looks and equipment, the BRZ premium was the best value to me. The only thing I would like is the rear spoiler, so hopefully I can get one soon.
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