Hi Fellas! Please give me the advice between ST or Tein Flex Z - Toyota GR86, 86, FR-S and Subaru BRZ Forum & Owners Community

ya1713 · 09-22-2015, 03:58 AM

Flex Z is the newest coilover and I think they are almost the same price! however, ST is fixed on damping only height adjustable. 40% cornering 60% comfortable. few times on track! How would you recommend? Thanks in advance

Cop · 09-22-2015, 03:59 AM

flex z

chaoskaze · 09-22-2015, 04:07 AM

Obviously flex Z. I feel most of the american made suspensions are based on the philosophy "as long as it workes, it's fine." instead of more & more fine tunings. >.>

DAEMANO · 09-22-2015, 10:22 AM

ST if you're going to spend more time on the street. Flex Z if you'll be spending more time on the track.

CSG Mike · 09-22-2015, 12:11 PM

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Originally Posted by DAEMANO

ST if you're going to spend more time on the street. Flex Z if you'll be spending more time on the track.

Why do you say that? I don't recommend the Flex Z for people who will be spending any significant amount of time on track.

MisterSheep · 09-22-2015, 12:46 PM

Flex Z > ST

fika84 · 09-22-2015, 01:36 PM

I'll sell you my ST so I can buy some Flex Z...

DAEMANO · 09-22-2015, 01:54 PM

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Originally Posted by CSG Mike

Why do you say that? I don't recommend the Flex Z for people who will be spending any significant amount of time on track.

It's a relative comparison, not a recommendation. So I'm referring mostly to spring rate. I'm definitely not recommending them for people spending significant time at the track. I couldn't really make that call. My meaning is that they're more track oriented than the very softly sprung STs, not that he should buy them as something to use racing. After all we are talking about $800 springs and dampers here.

OkieSnuffBox · 09-22-2015, 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by CSG Mike

Why do you say that? I don't recommend the Flex Z for people who will be spending any significant amount of time on track.

Because JDM > * yo

ya1713 · 09-23-2015, 07:53 AM

thank you guys. it seems I have to wait until the middle of November that flex z gets in stock

bfrank1972 · 09-23-2015, 08:21 AM

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Originally Posted by ya1713

thank you guys. it seems I have to wait until the middle of November that flex z gets in stock

You can also look around for discounted or lightly used street flex. As far as I know, very similar performance characteristics.

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JazzleSAURUS · 09-23-2015, 08:57 AM

Has Tein worked on their quality?

Any of the Tein products I've interacted with in the past have been no better than the typical cheap coilovers, and have blown within a year on the street.

My WRX's Tein Street coilovers blew in just over a year, and Tein couldn't rebuild them, neither could the local coilover guru.

The ST's in my Forester lasted 70k miles, quite a few were autox, and after 3 years they rebuilt them and got them back to me in a week.

Is my experience with the two companies opposite to what most people are having, or perhaps at least in this platform?

CSG Mike · 09-23-2015, 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by JazzleSAURUS

Has Tein worked on their quality?

Any of the Tein products I've interacted with in the past have been no better than the typical cheap coilovers, and have blown within a year on the street.

My WRX's Tein Street coilovers blew in just over a year, and Tein couldn't rebuild them, neither could the local coilover guru.

The ST's in my Forester lasted 70k miles, quite a few were autox, and after 3 years they rebuilt them and got them back to me in a week.

Is my experience with the two companies opposite to what most people are having, or perhaps at least in this platform?

Did you buy a counterfeit? Tein has a fully staffed facility stateside, and services dampers in North America locally.

JazzleSAURUS · 09-23-2015, 03:50 PM

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Originally Posted by CSG Mike

Did you buy a counterfeit? Tein has a fully staffed facility stateside, and services dampers in North America locally.

Nope. They were legitimate Teins. It was quite a while ago, (2008?) So I'm not sure if their service has changed at all since then.

It was two blown struts, (one front, one rear,) all within their height and adjustment ranges.

Mike, while you're in here, are you able to chime in on the quality of both ride and overall of Tein vs ST/KW?

I know the ST's are the budget KW's, and my experience has been stellar with them, but if things have changed with Tein, or if I had a one off bad experience, I'd like to know!

Thanks

09-22-2015, 03:58 AM	#1
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Cop Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2014 Drives: 2013 FRS Location: Bay Area Posts: 471 Thanks: 262 Thanked 170 Times in 121 Posts Mentioned: 5 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	flex z

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ya1713 Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2015 Drives: Intereted in 86 but now got G37 Location: Taiwan Posts: 5 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	thank you guys. it seems I have to wait until the middle of November that flex z gets in stock

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