follow ft86club on our blog, twitter or facebook.
FT86CLUB
Ft86Club
Delicious Tuning
Register Garage Community Calendar Today's Posts Search

Go Back   Toyota GR86, 86, FR-S and Subaru BRZ Forum & Owners Community - FT86CLUB > FT86CLUB Shared Forum > FR-S / BRZ vs....

FR-S / BRZ vs.... Area to discuss the FR-S/BRZ against its competitors [NO STREET RACING]

Register and become an FT86Club.com member. You will see fewer ads

User Tag List

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old 06-03-2012, 02:31 PM   #15
jrcoreymv
Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2012
Drives: s2000
Location: cali
Posts: 12
Thanks: 0
Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Awesome guys, thanks a lot. I'm glad I got a some opinions from s2k owners, I was a bit concerned about the bias on a brz forum. I'll most likely go for the s2k. Im starting a good job right out of school, so it won't be long to get something different if I have a change of heart. Besides, maybe a turbo version will be out by then, at which point my mind will be made up. My mom, on the other hand, isn't too happy with me getting the s2k.

How hard is it to get a test-drive from a subaru dealership?
jrcoreymv is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-03-2012, 02:38 PM   #16
FakeWhiteMan
Back From The Dead
 
Join Date: May 2012
Drives: Hot Lava FR-S
Location: CalCo MD
Posts: 144
Thanks: 24
Thanked 21 Times in 16 Posts
Mentioned: 4 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Send a message via AIM to FakeWhiteMan
It would be silly not to take the s2000. Like others have said, drive it around and test drive the BRZ, if you feel like the BRZ is $10k better than make the trade.
FakeWhiteMan is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-03-2012, 02:46 PM   #17
phm14
Loves the Smell of Track
 
phm14's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2011
Drives: '13 86
Location: Houston, TX
Posts: 397
Thanks: 297
Thanked 142 Times in 90 Posts
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Garage
It's different for everyone, and all boils down to your 1st priority of use for the car. I sold my S2000CR to build a NC MX5 track/street car. I loved the year I had the S2K, but I found the Vtec "hit" was less than ideal for my driving style on a road course, and brakes could be an issue. The MX5 inspired more confidence on track, and had no brake issues. The "broomstick test" requirement for convertibles was an issue for taller drivers even with racing seats. I'm thinking the 86 will be great on track, and have more utility on the street than either roadster. There just aren't that many top down days in my neck of the woods anyway. Having been upside down in a car before can dampen the ragtop fun as well.
__________________
2020 86 Hakone MT build thread: https://www.ft86club.com/forums/show...31#post3326231
2013 Toyobaru 86/FR-S 6MT, Red, aka Candy O SOLD
http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=7934
phm14 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-03-2012, 03:04 PM   #18
ayau
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2011
Drives: Some rust bucket
Location: Polar ice cap
Posts: 3,058
Thanks: 312
Thanked 1,046 Times in 556 Posts
Mentioned: 37 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by phm14 View Post
It's different for everyone, and all boils down to your 1st priority of use for the car. I sold my S2000CR to build a NC MX5 track/street car. I loved the year I had the S2K, but I found the Vtec "hit" was less than ideal for my driving style on a road course, and brakes could be an issue. The MX5 inspired more confidence on track, and had no brake issues. The "broomstick test" requirement for convertibles was an issue for taller drivers even with racing seats. I'm thinking the 86 will be great on track, and have more utility on the street than either roadster. There just aren't that many top down days in my neck of the woods anyway. Having been upside down in a car before can dampen the ragtop fun as well.
What's the broomstick test?
ayau is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-03-2012, 03:05 PM   #19
WingsofWar
MODERATOR-SAMA
 
WingsofWar's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Drives: Swagtron Scooter
Location: Seattle
Posts: 2,685
Thanks: 345
Thanked 1,562 Times in 524 Posts
Mentioned: 81 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
go with the s2000 IMO, its a very fun car...sure it has its hassles..but you learn to deal.

I only say this because for many of us we are coming from s2ks, STIs, Supras, etc, and we are appreciating the BRZ much more because of what it offers that those cars do not.

During the initial process, BRZ/GT86 was built on the ideals of dulling down performance that are made of todays sports cars and to peel away the layers to get to the rawer form of driving. And to me, if we do not understand those layers with our own hands and feet, we cant understand the full nature of what makes the BRZ/FRS special, like the Miata.
__________________
WingsofWar is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to WingsofWar For This Useful Post:
Dave-ROR (06-03-2012)
Old 06-03-2012, 03:08 PM   #20
Dave-ROR
Site Moderator
 
Dave-ROR's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2010
Drives: Stuff
Location: Florida
Posts: 10,317
Thanks: 955
Thanked 5,965 Times in 2,689 Posts
Mentioned: 262 Post(s)
Tagged: 8 Thread(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by ayau View Post
What's the broomstick test?
A broomstick (or other straight object) is placed between the top of the windshield frame and the rollover protection (roll bar/cage). If the drivers head goes past that line, it fails and won't be allowed on track for many tracks and organizations.

It prevented me from enjoying my S2K on track quite a bit. It's one of the reasons I sold my S2K.
__________________
-Dave
Track cars: 2013 Scion FRS, 1998 Acura Integra Type-R, 1993 Honda Civic Hatchback
DD: 2005 Acura TSX
Tow: 2022 F-450
Toys: 2001 Chevrolet Corvette Z06, 1993 Toyota MR2 Turbo, 1994 Toyota MR2 Turbo, 1991 Mitsubishi Galant VR-4
Parts: 2015 Subaru BRZ Limited, 2005 Acura TSX
Projects: 2013 Subaru BRZ Limited track car build
FS: 2004 GMC Sierra 2500 LT CCSB 8.1/Allison with 99k miles
Dave-ROR is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-03-2012, 05:15 PM   #21
dsgerbc
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Drives: BRZ(sold), STI
Location: A2, MI
Posts: 1,915
Thanks: 176
Thanked 419 Times in 241 Posts
Mentioned: 11 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Support the world economy, buy a new car
dsgerbc is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-03-2012, 05:56 PM   #22
Laika
When In Doubt...
 
Laika's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2011
Drives: Slowww
Location: PA215
Posts: 1,844
Thanks: 1,023
Thanked 752 Times in 412 Posts
Mentioned: 20 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
As a very proud BRZ owner, I still have to say you should absolutely get the s2000.
__________________

Join the Galaxy Blue Silica BRZ registry below:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/...2c&usp=sharing
Laika is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-03-2012, 06:02 PM   #23
zberch
Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2012
Drives: 06' 4runner
Location: Seattle, Preston, UK (3 more months)
Posts: 35
Thanks: 0
Thanked 4 Times in 2 Posts
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Something's missing here, the OP said "Now I realize that it comes down to whether the extra practicality is worth the 10 grand" I read this as your parents are giving you the S2000 or $20k. Is this the case?

Take the S and sell it if or when your ready, it's a great car. Resale it crazy high, especially with the low miles.
__________________
Current - 06' 4runner (US), 05' Mini (UK)
Past - 04' S2000 <- 07' Forester <- 05' A4 Avant <- 97' 4runner <- 05' xB <- 03' 325i <- 99' Tacoma <- 93' Integra GSR <- 93' Toy Pickup
zberch is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-03-2012, 06:04 PM   #24
bsk
Member
 
Join Date: May 2012
Drives: Raven FR-S
Location: United States
Posts: 16
Thanks: 2
Thanked 2 Times in 1 Post
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
I'm a current s2k owner and I was counting the days till the brz would be released. once I drove it I was so disappointed. Sure the handling is nice (so is the s2k) but the car really felt under powered to me so I kept my sk2. The seats in the brz are way more comfortable, the cabin feels a lot roomier but the lack of power and soft clutch killed the deal. I would Take the free sk2. Who knows 2-3 years from now maybe they will release a STI version then you can upgrade.
bsk is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-03-2012, 06:23 PM   #25
quik1987
Senior Member
 
quik1987's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2011
Drives: Bugatti Veyron
Location: Toronto, ON
Posts: 1,338
Thanks: 141
Thanked 569 Times in 256 Posts
Mentioned: 10 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
wish there was a brz/fr-s vs s2000 thread
quik1987 is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to quik1987 For This Useful Post:
fatoni (06-04-2012)
Old 06-03-2012, 06:40 PM   #26
Tbomb 25
Balance over power...
 
Join Date: Mar 2012
Drives: 13 Hot Lava Frs, 88 Supra Turbo
Location: San Pedro,California
Posts: 238
Thanks: 6
Thanked 38 Times in 33 Posts
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by jrcoreymv View Post
Awesome guys, thanks a lot. I'm glad I got a some opinions from s2k owners, I was a bit concerned about the bias on a brz forum. I'll most likely go for the s2k. Im starting a good job right out of school, so it won't be long to get something different if I have a change of heart. Besides, maybe a turbo version will be out by then, at which point my mind will be made up. My mom, on the other hand, isn't too happy with me getting the s2k.

How hard is it to get a test-drive from a subaru dealership?
You have a headstart more than most in the market for a S2000 you know all this cars particular orgins and its mint....TAKE THE S2000...buy a BRZ/FRS in a year or so and have both....wish i still had my 1st gen Miata the S2000 is 1 of the cars i havent got around to owning yet it most resymbles the 1st gen Miata but with steroids BRZ/FRS is the other side of the 1st gen Miata personality with great steering feel and practacality...you'll love having both!
Tbomb 25 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-03-2012, 07:34 PM   #27
GirlyScions
Member
 
Join Date: May 2012
Drives: Mazda3
Location: PA
Posts: 61
Thanks: 5
Thanked 19 Times in 10 Posts
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Take the s2k. This way it'll be one less person with sour grapes when a turbo'd version comes out.
GirlyScions is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-03-2012, 08:30 PM   #28
jrcoreymv
Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2012
Drives: s2000
Location: cali
Posts: 12
Thanks: 0
Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by zberch View Post
Something's missing here, the OP said "Now I realize that it comes down to whether the extra practicality is worth the 10 grand" I read this as your parents are giving you the S2000 or $20k. Is this the case?

Take the S and sell it if or when your ready, it's a great car. Resale it crazy high, especially with the low miles.
Sorta. Basically I was given a choice of my dad's s2k, or the money that it's worth. I'm not sure why I got this deal, but I'm not unhappy about it. I'm not spoiled by the way, but it is a pretty awesome graduation present.
jrcoreymv is offline   Reply With Quote
 
Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
First up close and personal impression..... BRZer86 Scion FR-S / Toyota 86 GT86 General Forum 2 05-23-2012 10:55 PM
DIFFICULT DECISION! Need opinions/advice NWIguy BRZ First-Gen (2012+) — General Topics 23 05-15-2012 12:34 AM
Looking for opinions on what my dealer sent me on another BRZ order. joshua BRZ First-Gen (2012+) — General Topics 19 04-17-2012 04:07 PM
Breckenridge, Colorado - Tips? Opinions? Suggestions? MiguelAE86 Off-Topic Lounge [WARNING: NO POLITICS] 7 12-28-2011 06:36 PM
Need your opinions on a new look for the site FT-MH Scion FR-S / Toyota 86 GT86 General Forum 27 03-19-2011 05:47 PM


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 08:42 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2026, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
User Alert System provided by Advanced User Tagging v3.3.0 (Lite) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2026 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.

Garage vBulletin Plugins by Drive Thru Online, Inc.