OFT - Example alternate maps for AT, 98RON, E85, MAF Scales

[freerunner]

Originally Posted by derka-derka

hi wayno,
is there a 700I version of this map. My dealer never updated (and had no idea wtf i was on about when asking them to). Im currently using shivs 2.067 and want to give this map a go. I kno the A01I is pretty much same map, but my ecu is still on 700I calId.

Do you have a working RomRaider install? You could copy & paste Wayno's tables into your current OFT tune until somebody comes along with a 700I.

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[BRZ Fanboi]

If you have an automatic and are running E85 in the US check this out.

[Wayno]

Originally Posted by BRZ Fanboi

If you have an automatic and are running E85 in the US check this out.

You sir are an idiot. 4 private messages at 3am and no waiting for a response. You do know that the earth is round and that the sun doesn't revolve around one country don't you? I don't give you "permission" to release them. what you've done is not a "release". Unless you provide people with every combination of mods for every calibration code you're wasting your time. Every person you don't create a specific tune for and who are too lazy (99%) will expect you to create it for them. Also, do you see how many revisions I've released? I'm not going to keep 7 tunes for 20+ calibration codes up to date.

[BRZ Fanboi]

Originally Posted by Wayno

You sir are an idiot. 4 private messages at 3am and no waiting for a response. You do know that the earth is round and that the sun doesn't revolve around one country don't you? I don't give you "permission" to release them. what you've done is not a "release". Unless you provide people with every combination of mods for every calibration code you're wasting your time. Every person you don't create a specific tune for and who are too lazy (99%) will expect you to create it for them. Also, do you see how many revisions I've released? I'm not going to keep 7 tunes for 20+ calibration codes up to date.

Um I'm not sure why all the hostility towards me or the personal attacks. I am just trying to provide to the community what works FOR ME. If you have a problem with that then you are a very irrational man. I'm not going to spend my time making a tune for every CAL ID nor should I be expected to, What I do I do for free and for the good of the community. I am not here to be tech support. I did not expect you to give me a ready made tune for my cal id so where you get the audacity is beyond me This new found bitchiness does not look good on you.

[Wayno]

Originally Posted by BRZ Fanboi

Um I'm not sure why all the hostility towards me or the personal attacks. I am just trying to provide to the community what works FOR ME. If you have a problem with that then you are a very irrational man. I'm not going to spend my time making a tune for every CAL ID nor should I be expected to, What I do I do for free and for the good of the community. I am not here to be tech support. I did not expect you to give me a ready made tune for my cal id so where you get the audacity is beyond me This new found bitchiness does not look good on you.

Because I have to read through all these private messages, then find you've posted up something incorrectly edited that's a step backward compared to the off the shelf tunes, and used my name to promote it. I've got 8 months of logs and collaboration on a bunch of different AT's and MT's behind my changes.

If it works for you that's fine. You might even want to get others to flash their cars with your untested changes, if you're honest with them and they're prepared to accept the risk that's also fine. But please don't attach mine or anyone else's name to your incomplete and untested files.

An example of which is below. 0V wideband = 17.23. How are people supposed to log and fix their individual cars with what you're giving them? Did you even re-open your file and check your changes? I admit I've sometimes uploaded things I've not checked and double checked, but I didn't put someone else's name on my mistakes !!!

People are free to make my changes to their own roms and post them here to be checked. They're free to post logs in the log thread and receive advice on how to modify their tunes.

If i'm blunt it's because I don't take modifying tunes on others cars lightly and neither does shiv, that's why the OTS tunes have so much built-in safety. I'm extremely careful not to remove that safety. By using my name you're undoing that 8 months of changes that I've tested and confirmed with data that aren't just safe for my car but for anyone's.

On the point of releasing other calibration codes. I've tried this before. As soon as you start releasing a range of calibrations, more people expect you to release the ever-increasing FULL range. So once again you're not helping.

You seemed to have missed the point of the timing changes. Most of the timing changes in E85 correspond to the fuel changes. The rest are there to SMOOTH out the timing map. You've taken the added timing which is part of the smoothed map, without the corresponding negative timing. So on a lot of people's cars, they're going to get knock and even BIGGER holes and even less smooth map.

This is a public forum, you're free to post whatever you want. Please don't attach people's names to files of questionable quality they would never approve of.

[BRZ Fanboi]

Originally Posted by Wayno

Because I have to read through all these private messages, then find you've posted up something incorrectly edited that's a step backward compared to the off the shelf tunes, and used my name to promote it. I've got 8 months of logs and collaboration on a bunch of different AT's and MT's behind my changes.

If it works for you that's fine. You might even want to get others to flash their cars with your untested changes, if you're honest with them and they're prepared to accept the risk that's also fine. But please don't attach mine or anyone else's name to your incomplete and untested files.

An example of which is below. 0V wideband = 17.23. How are people supposed to log and fix their individual cars with what you're giving them? Did you even re-open your file and check your changes? I admit I've sometimes uploaded things I've not checked and double checked, but I didn't put someone else's name on my mistakes !!!

People are free to make my changes to their own roms and post them here to be checked. They're free to post logs in the log thread and receive advice on how to modify their tunes.

If i'm blunt it's because I don't take modifying tunes on others cars lightly and neither does shiv, that's why the OTS tunes have so much built-in safety. I'm extremely careful not to remove that safety. By using my name you're undoing that 8 months of changes that I've tested and confirmed with data that aren't just safe for my car but for anyone's.

On the point of releasing other calibration codes. I've tried this before. As soon as you start releasing a range of calibrations, more people expect you to release the ever-increasing FULL range. So once again you're not helping.

You seemed to have missed the point of the timing changes. Most of the timing changes in E85 correspond to the fuel changes. The rest are there to SMOOTH out the timing map. You've taken the added timing which is part of the smoothed map, without the corresponding negative timing. So on a lot of people's cars, they're going to get knock and even BIGGER holes and even less smooth map.

This is a public forum, you're free to post whatever you want. Please don't attach people's names to files of questionable quality they would never approve of.

I completely understand however I was never suggesting that you or Shiv approved or endorsed the changes that were made. I was just giving credit to the source material. If you don't even want me doing that then I will stop using your name entirely. I have updated my post to reflect this. I also realize that in making the changes I have made that I will not get the ulta smooth map of your tune. What I got instead was Shiv's Tune with a smoother but more agressive map, better gas milage and your great utility changes. I do appreciate feedback but lets keep it constructive. I made a mistake when uploading the original file. The file that you have looked at is not the file that is flashed to my ecu. I have since uploaded the correct file. Attached is a log from today. Please tell me what you think.

[steve99]

Originally Posted by BRZ Fanboi

I completely understand however I was never suggesting that you or Shiv approved or endorsed the changes that were made. I was just giving credit to the source material. If you don't even want me doing that then I will stop using your name entirely. I have updated my post to reflect this. I also realize that in making the changes I have made that I will not get the ulta smooth map of your tune. What I got instead was Shiv's Tune with a smoother but more agressive map, better gas milage and your great utility changes. I do appreciate feedback but lets keep it constructive. I made a mistake when uploading the original file. The file that you have looked at is not the file that is flashed to my ecu. I have since uploaded the correct file. Attached is a log from today. Please tell me what you think.

You might want to log some full throttle runs in 3rd gear 2000 to redline
you might also want to log FLKC

That error in 02 sensor scaling could cause bad issues

Total timing is base timing plus (knock correction max A timing multiplied by iam ) plus offsets for coolant temp iat ect just be aware when editing maps timing may have been adjisted in baseB table and\or knock correction max A tables.

As a minium you want to test maps during normal street driving and on highway, then test on a hard mountain run or similar prolonged high load\tpm driving aggressive driving
them probably test at a track day
and test in hot and cold ambient conditions.

by the way while aussie petrol is crap compared to usa 93, our pump E85 is very good ,a consistent mix arround 85% ethanol rated at 107 octane, we can buy this at pump , its probably better than anything you would get in usa at pump

we also have the normal e85 that varies in e% called e-flex

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[BRZ Fanboi]

Originally Posted by steve99

That error in 02 sensor scaling could cause bad issues

Yeah that table is from the wrong tune which was uploaded by mistake. The correct tune uses the same 02 sensor scaling found in Wayno's tune.

[elBarto]

I must thank you Wayno, I'm using your tune (together with some other Belgian people) and our cars run great with your work.
Thanks for creating these, Belgian fuel isn't that great (even the premium 98 isn't good).

I copied your rom from the A01G to the A00G CalID and logged everything.
It seems to be working nice although I think our 98Ron is a little bit better then the Aussi fuel.
So when I have some free time I'm going to make my own little adjustments for my car and my fueltype.

Belgium thanks you and Steve99 for your hard work and info.

Link to logs
(3 logs, Cold cruise, pushing the car and hot cruise)

[Wayno]

Originally Posted by elBarto

I must thank you Wayno, I'm using your tune (together with some other Belgian people) and our cars run great with your work.
Thanks for creating these, Belgian fuel isn't that great (even the premium 98 isn't good).

I copied your rom from the A01G to the A00G CalID and logged everything.
It seems to be working nice although I think our 98Ron is a little bit better then the Aussi fuel.
So when I have some free time I'm going to make my own little adjustments for my car and my fueltype.

Belgium thanks you and Steve99 for your hard work and info.

Link to logs
(3 logs, Cold cruise, pushing the car and hot cruise)

The next step up from the 98 Base Timing is the OTS 91 Base Timing. You can try copying it from OTS maps.

On the track it's likely both would knock, the 91 will just knock more. Run whatever one gives you IAM = 1 under all conditions.

[Wayno]

Common changes and Load Limits

[Wayno]

Stg1 changes

[Wayno]

Stg2 98 changes

[Wayno]

E85 changes