Edelbrock E-force Owner's thread and FAQs (Frequently Asked Questions)

[Jaden]

Originally Posted by bfrank1972

Please. You're damned right they have to CYA - just think about all those hacks out there doing botched installations and trying to collect on their warranty after something breaks. Kudos to Edelbrock for providing a warranty under *any* circumstance - it's unheard of when it comes to an aftermarket FI product. Just shows how they plan to stand behind their product.

If they offered a power train warranty for self installs, then people who have blown up their motor on the dyno with a turbo, would buy this kit, install it and claim this kit caused the failure...

Having a certified mechanic do the install, verifies that the drivetrain is in good condition from the start, that the install is done correctly and I believe that ASE certified techs are required to have some type of insurance against negligence which further protects all parties.


Jaden

[Irace86]

Originally Posted by FyeaFRS

Jesus the install instructions are nightware-ish. I put a deposit down for this kit and am seriously reconsidering it now. There's so many modifications you have to do just to install. They claim this to be a simple bolt-on kit, but it looks to be far from it. Really bummed about it

http://www.edelbrock.com/fa20/downlo...structions.pdf

It has one spot that I saw to drill a hole to remount the resistor pack. Compared to some FI kits that would require splicing wires, drilling into oil pans for return lines, custom welds for incomplete IC or down pipes or anything else that is common, this is as plug and play as it gets. Like Mike said, if you can turn a wrench and screwdriver and unplug or pull off hoses and connectors then this will be completely doable, time consuming, but doable by your average joe.

[j123ic]

Originally Posted by Irace86

It has one spot that I saw to drill a hole to remount the resistor pack. Compared to some FI kits that would require splicing wires, drilling into oil pans for return lines, custom welds for incomplete IC or down pipes or anything else that is common, this is as plug and play as it gets. Like Mike said, if you can turn a wrench and screwdriver and unplug or pull off hoses and connectors then this will be completely doable, time consuming, but doable by your average joe.

This only applies to people running day time running lights as well. Just to be clear, the hole is already there. It's just enlarged to accept a rivet nut.

The instructions can be a bit intimidating, but compared to other Edelbrock supercharger installs, this one is probably the easiest by far. Just take a look at the other available instructions for the C7 Corvette or the Jeep superchargers.

[Kerune]

The warrantied tune is on 91, is there an alternative for running E85?

[Jaden]

Originally Posted by Kerune

The warrantied tune is on 91, is there an alternative for running E85?

Delicious tuning should be able to hook you up...

Jadem

[Kerune]

Originally Posted by Jaden

Delicious tuning should be able to hook you up...

Jadem

I meant to ask, is there a tune that Edelbrock will warranty that runs on E85?

[CSG Mike]

Originally Posted by Kerune

I meant to ask, is there a tune that Edelbrock will warranty that runs on E85?

No. It will only be supplied for the current existing stage 1 tune.

[ajcarson11]

This will be my FI solution come next spring. I've got catless headers currently and 93oct around here, so i'd expect an extra ~10-20hp there potentially. I love the dyno results -- torque for spirited street driving looks great.

Question as I'm not familiar with the whole 'CARB' thing (living in Indiana). The CARB tune is essentially meant to meet strict cali regulations on 91oct right? Is there a 'non-carb' tune available to unlock some of that restricted performance for states not requiring CARB?

Thanks all -- Pumped for the spring!

[Calum]

Originally Posted by ajcarson11

This will be my FI solution come next spring. I've got catless headers currently and 93oct around here, so i'd expect an extra ~10-20hp there potentially. I love the dyno results -- torque for spirited street driving looks great.

Question as I'm not familiar with the whole 'CARB' thing (living in Indiana). The CARB tune is essentially meant to meet strict cali regulations on 91oct right? Is there a 'non-carb' tune available to unlock some of that restricted performance for states not requiring CARB?

Thanks all -- Pumped for the spring!

I'm sure several tuners will have non carb tunes available soon.

[BigFatFlip]

Originally Posted by ajcarson11

Question as I'm not familiar with the whole 'CARB' thing (living in Indiana). The CARB tune is essentially meant to meet strict cali regulations on 91oct right? Is there a 'non-carb' tune available to unlock some of that restricted performance for states not requiring CARB?

That is actually a very good question. I live in CA, so it doesn't really matter to me, but I'm sure customers from other states would be curious.

If you look at Edelbrock's other offerings, there isn't really a separate non-CARB tune available. Most likely, their CARB tunes are optimized for 91 but will run on higher oct. Since you have after market exhaust, you will need a custom tune anyway, so I think you'll get your added bump that way.

[Edelbrock LLC]

We believe this has been brought up before, but just wanted to clarify for those concerned about our CARB tune.

We have two versions of the kit available for pre-order from Edelbrock certified dealers:

1556 w/ ECUtek kit
15560 without ECUtek Kit

For those of you that already own ECUtek hardware, we will have our CARB tune downloadable from our website similar to what we have for our Chrysler, Ford and GM platforms. Seen here: http://www.edelbrock.com/automotive/.../support.shtml

As for fuel types, E85 or 93-oct specific tunes are not offered. However, this does not rule out that this may be an option for later development.

[FirestormFRS]

Nice to see a large company like Edelbrock active on the forums.

[BoostedWrbBrz]

Originally Posted by Edelbrock LLC

The installation of the Edelbrock E-Force Supercharger System must be conducted by:

• a certified new car dealership
• a certified Edelbrock E-Force supercharger installer
• or by an automotive service technician certified by the Institute for Automotive ServiceExcellence (ASE) at an automotive repair facility with a valid business license.

So you mean to tell me if I installed this kit myself..and faxed/mailed you copies of all 5 of my ASE certs, you still wouldn't honor the power train warranty? My issue is I work at a HYUNDAI dealership, not Subaru. Theyd let me do it at work..but it would be undocumented. If they write up a repair order for the install I need to run a time flag from the moment I start to the moment I finish.. And then pay. So I'd have to pay for my own labor. And that most certainly isn't happening

[FirestormFRS]

Originally Posted by SlvrFrs

So you mean to tell me if I installed this kit myself..and faxed/mailed you copies of all 5 of my ASE certs, you still wouldn't honor the power train warranty? My issue is I work at a HYUNDAI dealership, not Subaru. Theyd let me do it at work..but it would be undocumented. If they write up a repair order for the install I need to run a time flag from the moment I start to the moment I finish.. And then pay. So I'd have to pay for my own labor. And that most certainly isn't happening

Honestly if you're that concerned about the warranty you probably shouldn't be boosting your car. Modding isn't for the faint of heart or thin of wallet. Pay to have it installed and get the warranty. Problem solved.