FT-86 SpeedFactory LCA by Verus - Lightest LCA for the Twins - Development Thread

[FRS Johnny]

Any updates?

[SkAsphalt]

Originally Posted by NotEric6

It hasn't... but we have been faced with multiple set-backs, primarily with pricing issues. This is due to using United States machine companies as well as a superior aluminum to 6061-T6; which all of the other units on the market use.

We are going to try to do a limited run build I think.

Would there be a possibility to manufacture the parts in Canada? 30% discount right now

[VerusEric]

Originally Posted by cdrazic93

what about 6061 T651? or T89? both have a higher shear strength yield and ultimate tensile strength than T6, and roughly the same cost not looking for aircraft aluminum, because need money for other mods lol

edit; any metallurgists can chime in and correct me if my alloy's wouldn't work for LCA stress applications.

Still not strong enough unfortunately.

Originally Posted by FRS Johnny

Any updates?

We will announce shortly what we plan to do. Working with FT-86 SpeedFactory on a final decision.

Originally Posted by SkAsphalt

Would there be a possibility to manufacture the parts in Canada? 30% discount right now

We like to keep everything in the United States .

[SkAsphalt]

Originally Posted by NotEric6

We like to keep everything in the United States .

We are SO close tho lol

[VerusEric]

Alright, so here's one final update. We have sourced a rubber bushing inboard pivot attachment that we can use for all you autocross guys that want this. Weight is still under 3 lbs with this piece on there.



FT-86 SpeedFactory should be creating a thread shortly to see if we can get some people interested. The pricing is more than we anticipated so we want to see if we can gain enough interest up front before machining a large production run.

A little back story on everything that went down since these were prototyped. The proprietary aluminum that only one company can make (due to patents) went up 70% from 2014-2015. This is a lot of cost added into the part when the LCA is as large as we made it. The initial machining quote on the LCA went up 3x, so I had to source a new vendor as well. Those are the two main driving factors.

What we hope is that we can still bring this to market for a reasonable cost in your opinions and that will be the intent of the interest thread, to hear your thoughts. The price can't and won't be lowered though; it's very likely this will be a one time limited run if it happens at all. Before writing it off completely, please look at the interest thread, it is still not the most expensive unit on the market. For a United States designed and produced unit that has been backed by FEA analysis, test bed benchmarks, and on car testing, we think it's still a good deal and we hope you do too .

Regardless of what happens though, I learned a ton on this project, hope you guys did too .

[Mad_Mike]

Best looking stx legal lca I've seen.

I applaud your efforts to make something unique, a lca that is lighter than stock. Honestly your testing and dedication to making quality products would have set the lca apart from the rest in my book (plus being stx legal). I could care less if it's lighter than stock. I hope the unfortunate and unforseen costs don't price it out of reach.

[Mad_Mike]

Best looking stx legal lca I've seen.

I applaud your efforts to make something unique, a lca that is lighter than stock. Honestly your testing and dedication to making quality products would have set the lca apart from the rest in my book (plus being stx legal). I could care less if it's lighter than stock. I hope the unfortunate and unforseen costs don't price it out of reach.

[DustinS]

Originally Posted by Mad_Mike

I hope the unfortunate and unforseen costs don't price it out of reach.

They have a price on their website... $625. Which I remember being there before they said anything about material costs going up. So I expect more than that, but I hope not.

[VerusEric]

Originally Posted by Mad_Mike

Best looking stx legal lca I've seen.

I applaud your efforts to make something unique, a lca that is lighter than stock. Honestly your testing and dedication to making quality products would have set the lca apart from the rest in my book (plus being stx legal). I could care less if it's lighter than stock. I hope the unfortunate and unforseen costs don't price it out of reach.

Thanks, been a fun journey. Won't be the last time this happens as we will always push the boundaries . We do not trust 6061-T6 aluminum as a LCA material in this light of a configuration so we will have to figure another route to take.

Originally Posted by DustinS

They have a price on their website... $625. Which I remember being there before they said anything about material costs going up. So I expect more than that, but I hope not.

It will be less than that, interest thread should be started any day now via FT-86 SpeedFactory. We are becoming sponsors of this site shortly at which point we will post the thread if it hasn't been yet .

[FT-86 SpeedFactory]

Group Buy / Interest thread - > http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=92928

[VerusEric]

We have decided we are going to offer a warranty with these LCA's! We're still figuring out how to keep track of everything as this will be a limited production run, but it will be in excess of 1 year and cover any manufacturing/material defects.

Racing will fully be backed of course . Will post more when we finalize the warranty period and how to enforce it. The warranty will not cover wrecks or signs of obvious abuse.

[Walldodger]

Hey, I've been looking around at rear camber adjustment options and have your lower arms on my short list.
Short story, I track my car and still learning a hell of a lot, spinning and generally falling off the track. How robust will these arms be? I've not had a problem with the standard ones so assume I won't with yours.
Also, what range of adjustment do your arms have?

[VerusEric]

Originally Posted by Walldodger

Hey, I've been looking around at rear camber adjustment options and have your lower arms on my short list.
Short story, I track my car and still learning a hell of a lot, spinning and generally falling off the track. How robust will these arms be? I've not had a problem with the standard ones so assume I won't with yours.
Also, what range of adjustment do your arms have?

You should not have issues with these either. They were tested to some pretty high loads off car and have been on FT86 SpeedFactory's time attack car for multiple events as well.

Camber tops out around 6-7 degrees of camber (calculated) but we don't recommend using them for this type of use.

[wparsons]

Originally Posted by NotEric6

You should not have issues with these either. They were tested to some pretty high loads off car and have been on FT86 SpeedFactory's time attack car for multiple events as well.

Camber tops out around 6-7 degrees of camber (calculated) but we don't recommend using them for this type of use.

How much camber in the positive direction can they add? Not that I would want positive camber, but dialing back by about a degree could be useful depending on ride height.