RACECOMP ENGINEERING Street Camber Plates for Subaru BRZ & Scion FR-S

[cruizin01]

very nice. will be looking for a set in this price range very soon.

[Calum]

Originally Posted by djliquidsteele

Is the caster fixed or adjustable?

Originally Posted by Racecomp Engineering

RCE Street Camber Plates also offer an additional 0.8 degrees of caster which helps minimize dynamic camber loss

Looking at the pics, there's no provision for adjusting caster, but the extra 0.8* would be awesome.

[Draco-REX]

Originally Posted by wparsons

That's the camber adjustment, caster would require sliding the whole upper mount forward or backwards.

Camber is adjusted by moving the strut mount in the slots. Rotating the mount has the be the caster adjustment. Otherwise I don't see the point in rotating the plate. You have to remove the bolts that hold the mount stationary in the plate in order to rotate it, so the rotation can't be for fine adjustment.

I think the spherical bearing is off center and rotating the mount moves the strut forward and back.

It should also be noted that there appears to be some static caster in the design as well. The slot isn't in the center of the plate, and appears to be placed rearward.

[Calum]

God dammit. Just two weeks ago I installed my T0's. They're only getting broken in now, and I just had it balanced and aligned today. These group n mounts are nice, but damn that extra caster and stiffer mount is enticing.

The T0's are fantastic, BTW. Already livable in daily driving, I can put much more power down on corner exit, corner entry speed is well, I don't know how much faster yet, I haven't found the limit.

[solidONE]

Originally Posted by Racecomp Engineering

Gotcha. In that case you'd gain approx -2.5 to -3.0 degrees.

- Andrew

Quite sufficient, sir.

[wparsons]

Originally Posted by Draco-REX

Camber is adjusted by moving the strut mount in the slots. Rotating the mount has the be the caster adjustment. Otherwise I don't see the point in rotating the plate. You have to remove the bolts that hold the mount stationary in the plate in order to rotate it, so the rotation can't be for fine adjustment.

I think the spherical bearing is off center and rotating the mount moves the strut forward and back.

It should also be noted that there appears to be some static caster in the design as well. The slot isn't in the center of the plate, and appears to be placed rearward.

Nope, the gear shaped is keyed into both the gold part, and the black part. Turning the gold part will force it to move in/out along the path in the black part. It's nothing more than an easier/more precise way to adjust the camber.

They did mention in the first post that there is 0.8* of static caster added, so you're right about that part.

[GSpeed]

That camber adjustment method is awesome. Did you guys file a patent application on that?

[Racecomp Engineering]

Originally Posted by PST

That camber adjustment method is awesome. Did you guys file a patent application on that?

Yes.

Mw

[Racecomp Engineering]

Originally Posted by Pat

Thanks for the info, Andrew. I've heard good things about RCE's camber plates for other models. They certainly have a good reputation.
That said, I likely have higher expectations than many people. I typically put 20,000+ miles on my car every year, including ten to 15 track days. Also, I live in Colorado and drive the car year-round.
When I modify my car, I want to do it once and do it well. I don't want to have to worry about servicing aftermarket parts on a regular basis. I have heard of people rebuilding (?) camber plates every couple years due to NVH that creeps in.
Given how and where I drive my car, what should I expect for service intervals on camber plates? If you have any wisdom to share with me I'm all ears.

Thanks !

We have always used the more expensive motorsport aerospace quality bearings. We started selling our lowering plates back in 2005 and can say the bearings last 3-4 years and remain tight and noise free for the most part. Of course there is always an incident where someone hits a MASSSSSIVE pothole or something super jagged and like any man made part, it can damage the bearing. But normal street use and track use no worries.

I think there are many variables for longevity. One is understanding NOT to ever lubricate a teflon bearing. NEVER. The Teflon is designed to continually lube the bearing. When someone lubes it , it defeats the purpose. NOW you have to keep lubing it. Of course no one ever admits that, OR a tech in shop will "think" he's doing something good and lube it for the flup of it.

Myles

[GSpeed]

Originally Posted by Racecomp Engineering

Yes.

Mw

Awesome! It's great to see truly innovative designs coming out. I'm glad you guys will be able to protect your design.

[Pat]

When camber plates do eventually need to be rebuilt, what is that process like? Ship them back to the manufacturer, they work their magic, and they get shipped back?
What kind of down time should one expect?
Cost?
Thanks again for answering all my questions so quickly.

[OkieSnuffBox]

Originally Posted by Pat

When camber plates do eventually need to be rebuilt, what is that process like? Ship them back to the manufacturer, they work their magic, and they get shipped back?
What kind of down time should one expect?
Cost?
Thanks again for answering all my questions so quickly.

That's what I've done on Ground Controls I've used in the past on older BMWs.

They rebuild for free, you only pay parts. At least that's GC used to it, that was a few years ago.

[Racecomp Engineering]

Originally Posted by Pat

When camber plates do eventually need to be rebuilt, what is that process like? Ship them back to the manufacturer, they work their magic, and they get shipped back?
What kind of down time should one expect?
Cost?
Thanks again for answering all my questions so quickly.

We stock those bearings normally so its just a matter of replacing the bearings.

Myles

[Pat]

Thanks, Myles.
You guys do this in-house as opposed to shipping the bearings out?
How much does this cost?
What kind of down time should one expect?
Thanks again.