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Old 08-03-2015, 07:16 AM   #85
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I think we're on the same page but I'm not sure what you meant here. Are you saying the installed helper spring pushes down the pedal at all times?
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The helper spring pushes UP at the top of travel to make the pedal feel like there's no slack because people expect new cars to be a certain way.

As you push the pedal down, the arrangement of the spring and levers means that it starts pushing down with you to make the clutch pedal much lighter.

If you adjust the pedal downward, you could put it in a position such that the spring is always pushing down, like a foot resting on the pedal.

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It is an over-center mechanism and, like Slysdexia says, reverses its action. I used to worry about the possibility of adjusting the pedal too low until I studied it more closely. It doesn't switch over until very deep into the travel.
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There should be a continuation of this diy....

"How to get rid of pedal wobble up top after clutch spring removal"


I'll be working on something 'cause i like shit tight .... jajaja
maybe do some mod to the clutch clevis???

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It is an over-center mechanism and, like Slysdexia says, reverses its action. I used to worry about the possibility of adjusting the pedal too low until I studied it more closely. It doesn't switch over until very deep into the travel.

Sorry for my ignorance, i'm just a physician having fun with my car....could you elaborate on the "doesn't switch over until very deep into the travel"


again sorry for the noobness and the inner ricer in me ...jeje

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There should be a continuation of this diy....

"How to get rid of pedal wobble up top after clutch spring removal"


I'll be working on something 'cause i like shit tight .... jajaja
maybe do some mod to the clutch clevis???

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That wobble is normal.

If you want, I know MTEC makes lighter spring to take up the slack, though there will still be a dead zone at the top.

I just flat-out removed the spring assembly over a year ago and have no issues. The slack/wobble is something you're only going to notice when looking at it.

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That wobble is normal.

If you want, I know MTEC makes lighter spring to take up the slack, though there will still be a dead zone at the top.

I just flat-out removed the spring assembly over a year ago and have no issues. The slack/wobble is something you're only going to notice when looking at it.

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ok ok cool...
i bought the mtec spring for nothing cause i'm extremely happy with no spring...i didnt even bothered on taking the spring out of the bag... if i think of something, i'll let you know...

This forum has given me so much all this years... i feel i need to give something back jejeje


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The helper spring pushes UP at the top of travel to make the pedal feel like there's no slack because people expect new cars to be a certain way.

As you push the pedal down, the arrangement of the spring and levers means that it starts pushing down with you to make the clutch pedal much lighter.

If you adjust the pedal downward, you could put it in a position such that the spring is always pushing down, like a foot resting on the pedal.

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It is an over-center mechanism and, like Slysdexia says, reverses its action. I used to worry about the possibility of adjusting the pedal too low until I studied it more closely. It doesn't switch over until very deep into the travel.

That explains the horrible dead feeling about half way through the pedal travel. Thanks guys.
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ok ok cool...
i bought the mtec spring for nothing cause i'm extremely happy with no spring...i didnt even bothered on taking the spring out of the bag... if i think of something, i'll let you know...

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You can adjust the cruise cancel switch to take up the slack at the top. Just make sure the master cylinder piston is allowed to fully extend!
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I get to the very end where I have to remove the assembly, it constantly pops back into place. Even when I give it a ton of pressure I cannot properly remove it. Is there a trick that I am missing? I am pressing it up with a flathead I get it about 70% of the way out but since its a flat surface and the pedal has a rounded edge it gets stuck. It won't move, I even tried to insert another flat head into the assembly to prevent it from snapping back, once I do that I press with another flathead upwards to remove it and no luck.
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I get to the very end where I have to remove the assembly, it constantly pops back into place. Even when I give it a ton of pressure I cannot properly remove it. Is there a trick that I am missing? I am pressing it up with a flathead I get it about 70% of the way out but since its a flat surface and the pedal has a rounded edge it gets stuck. It won't move, I even tried to insert another flat head into the assembly to prevent it from snapping back, once I do that I press with another flathead upwards to remove it and no luck.
try this: leave the petal in the up position. squeeze some vice grips over the top and bottom spring perches. Then press the pedal down with your foot in one quick motion. Spring assembly might come apart, but should flop out easily. That's how I did it.
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try this: leave the petal in the up position. squeeze some vice grips over the top and bottom spring perches. Then press the pedal down with your foot in one quick motion. Spring assembly might come apart, but should flop out easily. That's how I did it.
My buddy is bringing over his grips right now, I am going to try this; I tried to compress the spring with zip ties but that came with extreme failure.
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My buddy is bringing over his grips right now, I am going to try this; I tried to compress the spring with zip ties but that came with extreme failure.
yeah, I had the same experience. the zip ties got grease on them and just slid open. Good luck with it.
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I used a flathead, anger, and a hammer to get it out. Best decision of my life, although the wobble is kind of annoying it doesn't make a big deal honestly.
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