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Old 07-28-2015, 02:25 PM   #29
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Old 07-28-2015, 02:27 PM   #30
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When I first started driving it I was around 2k rpm for takeoff as I got used to it, 2.5 years later I'm consistently down to 1.2k-1.5k for takeoff, I could do lower but I would be impeding traffic if I did it at a lower rpm in a smooth fashion and sometimes if I'm in a hurry I'll rev it up to 2k for getting going.

My car is 2.5 years old with 40k miles on it with no signs of premature clutch wear including several hard launches for AutoX and 4x track days in addition to hundreds of stalls, lugs, and 2k rpm n00b starts. Clutches are made to be used and replaced, don't worry about it and take @humfrz advice to heart.
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Old 07-28-2015, 02:41 PM   #31
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For normal starts, I suggest you just "drive the car" (sort of like "just fly the plane").

Slowly let the clutch out AS you push on the gas pedal. If the engine "dies" ..... push on the gas a bit more next time. If you "peel out" ...... push on the gas less next time. If you smell "burning clutch" ..... let the clutch out quicker next time.........


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This is great advise. These things are meant to be replaced just like any wear product on your car i.e brake pads. Even though these clutches have been trickier than most manual cars i've driven.
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Old 07-28-2015, 02:43 PM   #32
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This is my first manual and I've always tried to keep the revs low ( under 1k) when engaging first.

Maybe im doing it wrong.
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This is also my first manual car. In normal traffic I rev between 1200-1700 rpm to get started. Only time I am around 1k rpm when moving is getting out of my driveway. Im not too worried about clutch wear. I haven't smelled it burning but its something meant to be replaced; as long as I dont have to replace it in the first 80k miles I will be okay.
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This is my first manual and I've always tried to keep the revs low ( under 1k) when engaging first.

Maybe im doing it wrong.
If you can do it without the engine lugging (it would sound like a tractor motor instead of nice and smooth) and you're smooth off the line then you're fine, and more skilled than I am.
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If you can do it without the engine lugging (it would sound like a tractor motor instead of nice and smooth) and you're smooth off the line then you're fine, and more skilled than I am.


Ive gotten to the point its smooth 80% of the time, but the only reason I was doing it that way was because I didnt really know how much leeway i had with it and fear of causing clutch damage.

I think knowing that I can get away with a little more revving makes it a little less stressful for me while driving in traffic now.
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Old 07-28-2015, 03:28 PM   #36
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I am baffled.

Why are you people revving to 1.5k to get this car moving from a stop.

You don't need any accelerator to move this car from a dead stop. If you just release the clutch to the friction point, the car moves. Driving to get a gallon of milk, I'm at best 800 rpm when moving from a stop. shifting around 2.5k rpm to 2nd. All these people starting at or north of 1.5K? are you serious? lol

Of course if all of you live your life a 1/4 mile at a time then I totally understand.
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I am baffled.

Why are you people revving to 1.5k to get this car moving from a stop.

You don't need any accelerator to move this car from a dead stop. If you just release the clutch to the friction point, the car moves. Driving to get a gallon of milk, I'm at best 800 rpm when moving from a stop. shifting around 2.5k rpm to 2nd. All these people starting at or north of 1.5K? are you serious? lol

Of course if all of you live your life a 1/4 mile at a time then I totally understand.
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I am baffled.

Why are you people revving to 1.5k to get this car moving from a stop.
It's an old habit, learned back in the day, ...... driving a underpowered tractor ..... pulling heavy ground working implements ........


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I redline then dump the clutch.
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It's interesting to see that everyone has different opinions and ways they drive. Obviously that's expected. I'm in the scared to damage the clutch crowd so I try not to rev to high.

That being said, if I was at a stop light and just let off the clutch without gas to get going, I wouldn't be the most popular person on the road. People around here drive like bats out of hell and as soon as that light turns green, it's .

Another question I had, is what causes more damage to the clutch...letting it out very slow when taking off or raising the rpms and getting off the clutch quicker? You definitely have to feather the clutch more for a <1k start.
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Another question I had, is what causes more damage to the clutch...letting it out very slow when taking off or raising the rpms and getting off the clutch quicker? You definitely have to feather the clutch more for a <1k start.
IMHO, it's hard to "damage" a clutch ..... unless you "drop" it.

Now, you can prematurely "wear out" a clutch by slipping it excessively or "riding" it.

I've been driving clutched vehicles for over 65 years and never "wore out" or "burnt up" a clutch disk.

To address your question, I would say that there is less wear on a clutch by letting it engage quicker rather than slipping it (generally speaking).

Relax, just drive the car normal; I’ll predict your car’s clutch will last longer than you own the car …..


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