Which Intake for the FR-S?

[bozack]

I'm between both Perrin and Mishimoto, box or mounted in the front bumper?

[Captain Snooze]

None of the above.
http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showt...ghlight=intake

[bozack]

Originally Posted by Captain Snooze

None of the above.
http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showt...ghlight=intake

So Grimspeed is your suggestion?

[WhiteFRS69]

Originally Posted by bozack

So Grimspeed is your suggestion?

yes! my suggestion too! grimmspeed has hands down some of the best made quailty parts IMO

[Captain Snooze]

Originally Posted by WhiteFRS69

yes! my suggestion too! grimmspeed has hands down some of the best made quailty parts IMO

Plus they do extensive testing (which they share) to support their product releases.

[bozack]

Originally Posted by Captain Snooze

Plus they do extensive testing (which they share) to support their product releases.

The Mishimoto intake is just about the same thing. Is it not? Not trying to sound like a asshole.

[churchx]

I'd say none purely from reasons that i value most upgrades by their price/performancy. Aftermarket drop-in filter will net you 2/3rds of gains of full intake for 1/5th of price. And less non-stock parts - often better resale value or less stock things to bolt back before sale
For this platform main way to get extra power in NA is header+tune. Only if that's already upgraded, and one must absolutely squeeze anything left to gain (with diminishing returns, as many parts gains don't stack), then also catback exhaust & intake.

[bozack]

Originally Posted by churchx

I'd say none purely from reasons that i value most upgrades by their price/performancy. Aftermarket drop-in filter will net you 2/3rds of gains of full intake for 1/5th of price. And less non-stock parts - often better resale value or less stock things to bolt back before sale
For this platform main way to get extra power in NA is header+tune. Only if that's already upgraded, and one must absolutely squeeze anything left to gain (with diminishing returns, as many parts gains don't stack), then also catback exhaust & intake.

I have the header/exhaust/stage 2 tune/light weight crank pulley/oil cooler kit/mishimoto radiator....had AEM intake, but it did not fit after the oil cooler kit install.

[themajesticone]

< 243 whp NA

[Captain Snooze]

Originally Posted by churchx

Aftermarket drop-in filter will net you 2/3rds of gains of full intake for 1/5th of price.

It is often the case that better flow comes at the expense of worse filtration. As it is impossible to find test data on filtration for each filter one doesn't know how much, if any, extra solids are being ingested by the engine. I do not know if it is significant; just that there is no free lunch.

[Poodles]

Originally Posted by Captain Snooze

It is often the case that better flow comes at the expense of worse filtration. As it is impossible to find test data on filtration for each filter one doesn't know how much, if any, extra solids are being ingested by the engine. I do not know if it is significant; just that there is no free lunch.

Oil analysis will have excess silica from a crap filter... There has been testing years ago as well (mainly for Supras but the different brands haven't really changed their tech at all)

[OkieSnuffBox]

Originally Posted by bozack

The Mishimoto intake is just about the same thing. Is it not? Not trying to sound like a asshole.

Do you want to support a company that spends money/time developing parts that deliver a proven performance increase?


Or


A company that is widely seen as copying the designs of the former?

[Mishimoto]

Originally Posted by bozack

I'm between both Perrin and Mishimoto, box or mounted in the front bumper?

Thanks for considering one of our intake systems for your FR-S! As noted, we have two different setups depending upon what you are looking for in terms of performance and filter servicing.

Cold-air System (Behind the Bumper)
http://www.mishimoto.com/subaru-brz-...intake-13.html Basic Specs

• Direct fit for the 2013+ Subaru BRZ and Scion FR-S
• Provides 10 whp / 8 wtq gains while maintaining A/F ratios with no additional tuning
• Mandrel-bent aluminum intake piping includes CNC-machined MAF housing and air straightener
• Fully serviceable oiled air filter provides 16% increase in filter surface area compared to the stock filter
• Available with a polished or wrinkle black finish
• Powder-coated air diverter plate provides ample airflow to both the radiator and intake filter
• Improves engine tone
• True cold-air design places the filter outside the hot engine bay
• Smooth piping eliminates restrictions and improves airflow
• Mishimoto Lifetime Warranty

Product Design and Testing: http://engineering.mishimoto.com/?cat=112

Engine Bay Performance Intake
http://www.mishimoto.com/subaru-brz-...take-2013.html

Basic Specs

• Direct fit for the 2013+ Subaru BRZ and Scion FR-S
• Provides 7 whp / 5 wtq gains while maintaining A/F ratios with no additional tuning
• No bumper removal required and installs in under 30 minutes
• Designed to fit with the Mishimoto BRZ / FR-S Oil Cooler Kit and Mishimoto Oil Fill Cap
• Black powder-coated airbox keeps unwanted hot air from entering the air filter
• Wrinkle black aluminum intake pipe includes CNC-machined MAF housing and air straightener
• Fully serviceable oiled air filter provides 16% increase in filter surface area compared to the stock filter
• Improves engine tone
• Smooth design eliminates restrictions and improves airflow
• Available with a black, blue or red silicone induction hose
• Mishimoto Lifetime Warranty

Product Design and Testing: http://engineering.mishimoto.com/?cat=260


Our performance intake is currently available via a discounted pre-sale at the rate of $275. Let me know if I can answer any questions about either kit.

Thanks
-John

Originally Posted by bozack

The Mishimoto intake is just about the same thing. Is it not? Not trying to sound like a asshole.

Originally Posted by OkieSnuffBox

Do you want to support a company that spends money/time developing parts that deliver a proven performance increase?

Or

A company that is widely seen as copying the designs of the former?

We design all of our intake systems in-house and do not "copy" any products during the process. The airbox setup was designed to take advantage of the factory intake air duct, which means (like most intake systems) the airbox placement is similar. The products in question may be similar, but are in no way identical. Our airbox is specifically designed to fit with our air filter and to function with our oil cooler sandwich plate. These were two important factors that impacted our final design.

Thanks
-John

[bozack]

Originally Posted by themajesticone

< 243 whp NA

How in the hell