Got the itch... - Toyota GR86, 86, FR-S and Subaru BRZ Forum & Owners Community

SCHN3LL · 06-16-2015, 06:15 PM

Well it seems like this feeling rears its ugly head just about every 2 years for me, and that feeling is an itch that only a new car can scratch...

This is my 9th car in 14 years of driving, so I've (stupidly) changed cars at a pretty good clip. Lot's of classics in my previous stable: Merc 190E, e46 M3, e86 M-coupe, 135i, vw GTI, 5.0 mustang, etc.

I've owned my BRZ for almost 2 years now and it's a great car, love it to death, I just wish I could easily get more power out of that 2.0 engine.

I've done the basic bolt-ons and currently run E85 gas to eek the most out of the engine in its current state, but with the engine right under 200whp, I feel like it's still lacking.

When I picked up the BRZ I traded in a 2012 5.0 Mustang with a few bolt-ons. It was very fast, but large, too large. So I know I want something light, small and nimble (do not ever want kids, so 2 doors is perfect), a couple cars have my interest currently - and I want something that can be tracked occasionally without issue.

Focus RS:
Pro's - great engine (easily 400whp with tune and bolt ons - see MAPerformance's experience with ecoboost mustangs), sounds like a rather advanced AWD system, badge heritage (so hopefully they don't mess it up), rare, tech gadgets

Con's - shares a body with a rental fleet special, jury is out on the transmission, not sold on the e-diff for the front wheels (tends to burn up brakes at the track, would rather mechanical), looks good not great, too large/heavy, possibly price (if 40k+)

Newer body Cayman S / 997 CS:
Pro's - it's a Porsche, looks, reliability (newer P-car's have been much improved), performance, size, weight, slick gearboxes, heritage, pretty much perfect out of the factory

Con's - it's a Porsche, finding a used model with the spec you want is very difficult / pricey, worry about leaving the car unattended (guilty of this for every car I've owned though), pretentiousness

The Unknown:
- Next gen BRZ

What would you choose and why? Or am I just crazy and I should enjoy the BRZ?

BRZtoni · 06-16-2015, 06:36 PM

turbo brz.. easily 300WHP with turbo and 350++WHP with ethanol

raven1231 · 06-16-2015, 06:37 PM

Yes sir and just keep a few engines and trannys on hand just in case!

dem00n · 06-16-2015, 06:40 PM

I'd go for the Focus RS, it looks to be the most different and interesting comparing to the previous cars you've owned.

Re~Mix · 06-16-2015, 06:40 PM

Depends on your usage, current garage and realistic budget. I see your in SoCal which means owning a sports car is a much easier ordeal, otherwise I would almost unanimously say Focus RS.

Hell, I have been going through the same used Pcar dilemma and its a big change in monthly/yearly costs. Purchase price is slightly higher, maintenance and insurance run higher. If you're in a comfortable place to do that, go for it!

Jaden · 06-16-2015, 06:41 PM

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Originally Posted by BRZtoni

turbo brz.. easily 300WHP with turbo and 350++WHP with ethanol

THIS^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Jaden

jflogerzi · 06-16-2015, 06:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Jaden

THIS^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Jaden

Gotta deal with Smog laws and that chance of getting caught.(Not a cheap ticket!)

SCHN3LL · 06-16-2015, 06:56 PM

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Originally Posted by jflogerzi

Gotta deal with Smog laws and that chance of getting caught.(Not a cheap ticket!)

This is the reason why FI isn't really a great option for me. If I wasn't in SoCal, I'd do a turbo and be done with it.

But my only options are a few superchargers that are good, but not great.

Teseo · 06-16-2015, 06:59 PM

Engine swap. Less than buying a car

Jaden · 06-16-2015, 07:04 PM

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Originally Posted by jflogerzi

Gotta deal with Smog laws and that chance of getting caught.(Not a cheap ticket!)

I'm working on this.... :snicker:

Jaden

tahdizzle · 06-16-2015, 07:24 PM

I'm eagerly anticipating a fa20dit swap. if it is feasable or not in cali.

jdmblood · 06-17-2015, 12:08 AM

wait for the civic type r instead of the focus rs.

honda > ford

Sideways&Smiling · 06-17-2015, 12:15 AM

Focus RS might very well be the next Evo killer, but I wouldn't preorder it. A test drive will definitley be needed.

Sideways&Smiling · 06-17-2015, 12:15 AM

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Originally Posted by jdmblood

wait for the civic type r instead of the focus rs.

honda > ford

but AWD > FWD.

View Poll Results: What do I do?
Keep the BRZ, go forced induction	20	38.46%
Pre-order Focus RS	8	15.38%
Go for a used Porsche	15	28.85%
Something else	9	17.31%
Voters: 52. You may not vote on this poll

06-16-2015, 06:15 PM	#1
SCHN3LL Member Join Date: Oct 2013 Drives: '13 GBS BRZ Location: San Diego Posts: 87 Thanks: 3 Thanked 30 Times in 21 Posts Mentioned: 6 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Got the itch... Well it seems like this feeling rears its ugly head just about every 2 years for me, and that feeling is an itch that only a new car can scratch... This is my 9th car in 14 years of driving, so I've (stupidly) changed cars at a pretty good clip. Lot's of classics in my previous stable: Merc 190E, e46 M3, e86 M-coupe, 135i, vw GTI, 5.0 mustang, etc. I've owned my BRZ for almost 2 years now and it's a great car, love it to death, I just wish I could easily get more power out of that 2.0 engine. I've done the basic bolt-ons and currently run E85 gas to eek the most out of the engine in its current state, but with the engine right under 200whp, I feel like it's still lacking. When I picked up the BRZ I traded in a 2012 5.0 Mustang with a few bolt-ons. It was very fast, but large, too large. So I know I want something light, small and nimble (do not ever want kids, so 2 doors is perfect), a couple cars have my interest currently - and I want something that can be tracked occasionally without issue. Focus RS: Pro's - great engine (easily 400whp with tune and bolt ons - see MAPerformance's experience with ecoboost mustangs), sounds like a rather advanced AWD system, badge heritage (so hopefully they don't mess it up), rare, tech gadgets Con's - shares a body with a rental fleet special, jury is out on the transmission, not sold on the e-diff for the front wheels (tends to burn up brakes at the track, would rather mechanical), looks good not great, too large/heavy, possibly price (if 40k+) Newer body Cayman S / 997 CS: Pro's - it's a Porsche, looks, reliability (newer P-car's have been much improved), performance, size, weight, slick gearboxes, heritage, pretty much perfect out of the factory Con's - it's a Porsche, finding a used model with the spec you want is very difficult / pricey, worry about leaving the car unattended (guilty of this for every car I've owned though), pretentiousness The Unknown: - Next gen BRZ What would you choose and why? Or am I just crazy and I should enjoy the BRZ? __________________ OFT + e85, Borla catback, header soon...

06-16-2015, 06:36 PM	#2
BRZtoni Turbo E85 Join Date: Sep 2013 Drives: 13 wrb brz Location: torrance, ca Posts: 1,093 Thanks: 172 Thanked 555 Times in 349 Posts Mentioned: 32 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	turbo brz.. easily 300WHP with turbo and 350++WHP with ethanol __________________ Flex Fuel Turbo BRZ

06-16-2015, 06:37 PM	#3
raven1231 Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2013 Drives: 2013 Firestorm FR-S, 2016 DGM WRX Location: Cincinnati, Ohio Posts: 4,580 Thanks: 8,264 Thanked 3,118 Times in 1,667 Posts Mentioned: 24 Post(s) Tagged: 1 Thread(s)	Yes sir and just keep a few engines and trannys on hand just in case! __________________ http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=59870

06-16-2015, 06:40 PM	#4
dem00n Member of the year - 2016 Join Date: Jul 2012 Drives: Scion FRS Location: New York Posts: 3,575 Thanks: 788 Thanked 2,427 Times in 1,111 Posts Mentioned: 23 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	I'd go for the Focus RS, it looks to be the most different and interesting comparing to the previous cars you've owned. __________________ Friends don't let friends Plastidip

06-16-2015, 06:40 PM	#5
Re~Mix Senior Member Join Date: May 2012 Drives: 13' Scion FRS MT Location: San Francisco Bay Area Posts: 737 Thanks: 290 Thanked 333 Times in 191 Posts Mentioned: 7 Post(s) Tagged: 3 Thread(s)	Depends on your usage, current garage and realistic budget. I see your in SoCal which means owning a sports car is a much easier ordeal, otherwise I would almost unanimously say Focus RS. Hell, I have been going through the same used Pcar dilemma and its a big change in monthly/yearly costs. Purchase price is slightly higher, maintenance and insurance run higher. If you're in a comfortable place to do that, go for it! __________________ 07' Z4M Coupe \| KW Clubsports \| AFE Intake \| Stromung Mufflers \| UUC Shortshifter \| Advan RS 15' 228i MSport 13' FR-S \| TRD CAI \| TRD Catback \| UEL Header \| OFT Stg 1 \| Rota Grid-V \| RCE Suspension \| Hankook \|

06-16-2015, 06:59 PM	#9
Teseo Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2014 Drives: frs Location: Gunsai Posts: 4,951 Thanks: 7,463 Thanked 2,978 Times in 1,801 Posts Mentioned: 23 Post(s) Tagged: 2 Thread(s)	Engine swap. Less than buying a car

06-17-2015, 12:08 AM	#12
jdmblood Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2013 Drives: white subaru brz Location: miami Posts: 825 Thanks: 158 Thanked 289 Times in 183 Posts Mentioned: 14 Post(s) Tagged: 2 Thread(s)	wait for the civic type r instead of the focus rs. honda > ford

06-17-2015, 12:15 AM	#13
Sideways&Smiling Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2013 Drives: AP2 S2000, S14 240sx Location: Tampa, FL Posts: 967 Thanks: 446 Thanked 484 Times in 288 Posts Mentioned: 9 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Focus RS might very well be the next Evo killer, but I wouldn't preorder it. A test drive will definitley be needed.

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