Speeding ticket by pacing - Toyota GR86, 86, FR-S and Subaru BRZ Forum & Owners Community

slyphen · 06-07-2015, 03:07 AM

Hey guys, not sure if this is off topic. but since i recently moved here from NY, i've never heard a pace speeding ticket(but then again, i've only gotten 1 speeding ticket since i started driving back in 08 and that was almost 6 years ago).

I'm not going to state if I was speeding or not(it was a bit ridiculous is all i'm going to say.) But from some research i've been doing online, some say i have a good chance of fighting this off because the police officer on the motorbike used pacing as a gauge for speed. Just want to get some advice and hear some different opinions. First time ever being pulled over in WA.

Thanks!

P.S. this happened on the freeway just before broadway in everett. I was just going for a car wash. =.=

Chen · 06-07-2015, 04:49 AM

I'm not entirely sure how a pacing ticket works. But from what I guess is a cop spotted you then followed you and matched your speed? Only thing I can think of to prove him wrong was saying your passing other cars as he was pacing.

ZionsWrath · 06-07-2015, 05:27 AM

I currently waiting on my court date for same type of thing. Ticket says pace then radar in another spot. Interested to hear input on this as well.

Im in ny though

jblmr2 · 06-07-2015, 11:48 AM

Before the advent of radar being used by police, pacing was only method they used for speeding. Unless you have some very compelling evidence to dispute the cop it will be your word against his/hers. I think you know how that's going to play out in front of a judge.

slyphen · 06-07-2015, 12:22 PM

this is one thing i was reading about that i might use in my defense before we even get to the speed. http://pacespeedingtickets.com/ there are a few other forums i seen used this exact defense.

Cooperdh · 06-07-2015, 02:07 PM

The burden of proof for traffic tickets is very low. It really depends on the speed one was driving. If it was excessive (over 20 MPH over limit), then it isn't hard for the officer to prove more likely than not that one was speeding. So in other words, you may be screwed.

slyphen · 06-07-2015, 04:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Cooperdh

The burden of proof for traffic tickets is very low. It really depends on the speed one was driving. If it was excessive (over 20 MPH over limit), then it isn't hard for the officer to prove more likely than not that one was speeding. So in other words, you may be screwed.

oh it was not even close to over 20MPH over the limit. like i said it was ridiculous

2PINOY1 · 06-07-2015, 09:12 PM

Get a traffic lawyer he can get you off just paying his fee. This will not show on your record and your insurance will not go up. It will save u money in the long run...

slyphen · 06-08-2015, 12:35 PM

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Originally Posted by 2PINOY1

Get a traffic lawyer he can get you off just paying his fee. This will not show on your record and your insurance will not go up. It will save u money in the long run...

how much do those usually go for?

RobertPaulson · 06-08-2015, 01:44 PM

https://www.mucklestone.com/ she came highly recommended to me by a lot of people at microsoft. i've used her twice and she's gotten both tickets thrown out.

bboyclo · 06-08-2015, 04:12 PM

if it's your 1st one just defer it

slyphen · 06-08-2015, 05:32 PM

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Originally Posted by bboyclo

if it's your 1st one just defer it

as in just pay it?

RobertPaulson · 06-08-2015, 05:39 PM

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Originally Posted by bboyclo

if it's your 1st one just defer it

you need to make sure the court house in question even offers defferal. I found out the hard way several years ago that Arlington with some crusty old fucker does not. Watched him shut down 3 people who asked for it. I then tried to get the fine reduced by admitting to doing 78, which was true, i had my cruise on, was passed by a black dodge nitro, cop tags nitro, pulls me over and gave me a ticket for 84. Judge told me he'd mail me his decision in 2 weeks. he stuck me with a ticket for doing 84.

so between the time spent in the courthouse, driving to the courthouse and the fine, i'd have paid less to pay a traffic attorney.

edit: just looked it up, arlington does offer defferals, fucking asshole judge.

continuecrushing · 06-08-2015, 05:43 PM

sell everything for cash and move out of the country.

but, were you speeding? If so, easier to just pay the fine and get on with it! And make sure you aren't followed lol

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06-07-2015, 04:49 AM	#2
Chen Regional Moderator Join Date: Aug 2012 Drives: 00-AP1 20-A90 06-Z33 07-FA5 93-NA1 Location: Portland, OR Posts: 4,633 Thanks: 85 Thanked 1,278 Times in 856 Posts Mentioned: 309 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	I'm not entirely sure how a pacing ticket works. But from what I guess is a cop spotted you then followed you and matched your speed? Only thing I can think of to prove him wrong was saying your passing other cars as he was pacing.

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2PINOY1 Member Join Date: Feb 2015 Drives: Black/Raven Location: Tacoma Posts: 28 Thanks: 42 Thanked 35 Times in 22 Posts Mentioned: 4 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Get a traffic lawyer he can get you off just paying his fee. This will not show on your record and your insurance will not go up. It will save u money in the long run...

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