Comparison of the best ~2 liter N/A engines ever produced

[tahdizzle]

And this has to do with the engine how?

[86Tony]

Originally Posted by tahdizzle

And this has to do with the engine how?

How does it not? F20c vs k24 what else we trying to prove here.

[CSG Mike]

Originally Posted by 86Tony

low end power helps you have faster corner exit speed. If we comparing to only honda engines. Depends in which track your talking about also.

Spoken like a true bench racer.
On a 8000RPM engine, I don't care about power at 3000 RPM. I'm going to be over 5000RPM the whole time.

[86Tony]

[ame="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yr1VHyXNMiA"]Prelude k24 VS S2000 turbo 2009 at Cayuga Motorsport Park - YouTube[/ame]

[86Tony]

Again buddy all motor lude vs turbo s2k and he can even walk from him.

[86Tony]

Quit it with your track racing non sense I have been racing for the past 12 years. I don't want to even begin

[drewbot]

The fact that the Prelude only catches up during braking would suggest that the S2K driver is not hard enough on the brakes

[Sideways&Smiling]

Is this really necessary? They are both great engines. I can admit there are some very fast k-series-powered cars out there, both FWD and RWD (MR-S, and now Miata)... and I'm not a FWD fan at all.

However, if you want to post videos...

[ame="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dWVLT5RQxhU"]トップフューエル 岡国コースレコード　TOP FUEL S2000RR Okayama International Circuit Record 1'27.887 - YouTube[/ame]

[ame="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4O2WvsigiHs"]トップフューエル 鈴鹿サーã‚*ットコースレコード　TOP FUEL S2000RR Suzuka International Circuit Time Attack Record 2'00.995 - YouTube[/ame]

[ame="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fmj4U1pUmfY"]TOPFUEL/VOLTEX Set a record of tuning car at FujiSpeedWay - YouTube[/ame]

[ame="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wo1sAjXZWiI"]Taniguchi testing at Fuji Speedway in the Top Fuel S2000 - YouTube[/ame]

[ame="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fIOx65RuArQ"]Detailed video of Top Fuel Honda S2000 time attack car testing for WTA at Suzuka Circuit - YouTube[/ame]

[CSG Mike]

Ok, since the 430+ whp NA F2xC didn't get your attention, how about some FI on a stock motor?

Go to 6:12

[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XNwvxtPziu4&t=6m12s[/ame]

[ame="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QkgdBLLZPTM"]New S2000 Stock Block MPH Record - Import Face Off 2012 - Real Street Performance - YouTube[/ame]

Sorry buddy, but you need a reality check.

[Sideways&Smiling]

Originally Posted by CSG Mike

Nobody cares about low end power on track except people who've never actually been on track.

This is highly debatable considering the fact that most 4 cylinder + turbo time attack cars who do well all tend to go for extra displacement (2.2 - 2.5L) to get the right amount of torque.

I do however somewhat agree if you refer to FR cars with V8s, as that much torque can be more of a problem than a help... you don't see many V8 240sx/Miatas/RX7s etc. keeping up with turbo 4 cylinder/rotary versions of those same cars, usually.

Then again, Danny George just placed highly in his V8 Miata at a time attack the other day... I believe 3rd in RWD Unlimited.... 1st going to a Corvette. haha.

[Sideways&Smiling]

Originally Posted by CSG Mike

Ok, since the 430+ whp NA F2xC didn't get your attention

what? where was this?

BTW, I've seen MANY people say that built engine vs built engine the K series has improvements over the F series, so this guy isn't totally full of it like you guys are trying to claim. Stock vs stock & built vs built are two different things though...

[serialk11r]

Originally Posted by Sideways&Smiling

This is highly debatable considering the fact that most 4 cylinder + turbo time attack cars who do well all tend to go for extra displacement (2.2 - 2.5L) to get the right amount of torque.

Pretty sure they go for higher displacement when it's allowed because higher displacement equals more power all else equal, no? Squeezing the max displacement out of a block is an extremely mass-effective way of adding power.

[CSG Mike]

Originally Posted by Sideways&Smiling

This is highly debatable considering the fact that most 4 cylinder + turbo time attack cars who do well all tend to go for extra displacement (2.2 - 2.5L) to get the right amount of torque.

I do however somewhat agree if you refer to FR cars with V8s, as that much torque can be more of a problem than a help... you don't see many V8 240sx/Miatas/RX7s etc. keeping up with turbo 4 cylinder/rotary versions of those same cars, usually.

Then again, Danny George just placed highly in his V8 Miata at a time attack the other day... I believe 3rd in RWD Unlimited.... 1st going to a Corvette. haha.

Look at the times...

[CSG Mike]

Originally Posted by Sideways&Smiling

what? where was this?

BTW, I've seen MANY people say that built engine vs built engine the K series has improvements over the F series, so this guy isn't totally full of it like you guys are trying to claim. Stock vs stock & built vs built are two different things though...