TRD lowering springs

[MTeator]

Originally Posted by NA_FRS86

thinking about getting me a set do you have pics?

This is my car on TRD lowering springs. The wheels/tires are stock size, but a 1/4" ish further out with these wheels.

[Chimera]

So if one were to purchase TRD Springs on their own, would I want to go to the dealer to request install / alignment or just take it to any regular shop?

[Tcoat]

Originally Posted by Chimera

So if one were to purchase TRD Springs on their own, would I want to go to the dealer to request install / alignment or just take it to any regular shop?

I would check with your dealer as to whether they would cover warranty if someplace does the installation. Some dealers are much more reasonable than others.

[Chimera]

Fair enough. Cars coming up to 20k mi, and I don't have any extended warranty at all so part of me thinks it doesn't matter as long as it is actually done right.

Originally Posted by Tcoat

I would check with your dealer as to whether they would cover warranty if someplace does the installation. Some dealers are much more reasonable than others.

[Tcoat]

Originally Posted by Chimera

Fair enough. Cars coming up to 20k mi, and I don't have any extended warranty at all so part of me thinks it doesn't matter as long as it is actually done right.

There is that. If not worried about warranty just do it yourself.

[Chimera]

Originally Posted by Tcoat

There is that. If not worried about warranty just do it yourself.

I am currently between garages Making car work more of an.. Investment of effort.. Than it was before. Yay apartment living. But it's a nice place at least. I'd probably pay the premium to have a shop do the installation and alinement same time.

[gtslow]

Please keep in mind that the dealer can only void a warranty for parts directly affected by the part added. They might void your warranty on suspension components or axels but they would be very to try and void your engine or transmission warranty. This would be in violation of the magnusson moss warranty act.

[Timmy_Jones]

The dealer wanted 2+ hours of labor for each spring (estimate was $900+), they expected to work on my car for a full day. I will not go back there.

[Chimera]

Originally Posted by Timmy_Jones

The dealer wanted 2+ hours of labor for each spring (estimate was $900+), they expected to work on my car for a full day. I will not go back there.

O.o
Yea for 900 I'll diy every day....

[stevesnj]

TRD Warranty dealer and consumer installed.
http://www.trdusa.com/warranty.html

TRD WARRANTY DETAILS
There are two separate categories of TRD Parts, TRD Sport Parts and Race or Off-Highway Use Parts. The warranty coverage for and lawful use of parts in each of these categories is very different. Warranty and use information for each category of TRD Parts is described below.

TRD SPORT PARTS INSTALLED BY A DEALER

TRD Sport Parts are warranted for 12 months or 12,000 miles from the date of installation or for the balance of the new car warranty in force on the date of installation, whichever is greater, when TRD Sport Parts are installed by an authorized Toyota or Scion Dealer. Superchargers carry the same warranty, but the coverage is 12 months or 12,000 miles from the date of installation or the balance of the new car 5 year, 60,000 mile powertrain warranty in force at the time of installation. This warranty does not cover maintenance services such as replacement of brake pads/linings and clutch linings. This warranty does not cover noise, vibration, cosmetic conditions and other deterioration caused by normal wear and tear.

TRD customers are responsible for ensuring that the use of any TRD Sport Part complies with all applicable federal, state or local laws, regulations and ordinances.

TRD SPORT PARTS NOT INSTALLED BY A DEALER

TRD Sport Parts installed by anyone other than an authorized Toyota or Scion dealer are warranted for 12 months or 12,000 miles from the date of purchase only and the warranty coverage is limited to the replacement value of the TRD Sport Part. Superchargers carry the same coverage.

This warranty does not cover maintenance services such as replacement of brake pads/linings and clutch linings. This warranty does not cover noise, vibration, cosmetic conditions and other deterioration caused by normal wear and tear. Part failure caused by improper installation by anyone other than an authorized Toyota or Scion dealer may void the TRD Sport Part warranty, the new vehicle warranty or both.

TRD customers are responsible for ensuring that the use of any TRD Sport Part complies with all applicable federal, state or local laws, regulations and ordinances.

RACE OR OFF-HIGHWAY USE PARTS

Race or Off-Highway Use Parts have no warranty. Should any Race or Off-Highway Use Parts shown in this catalog prove defective following their purchase, the buyer and not the manufacturer, distributor, dealer or retailer, shall assume the entire cost of all necessary servicing or repair of the defective part and of any damage that may have been caused by the defective part. The buyer assumes the entire risk as to the performance of such parts. To the fullest extent permitted by applicable federal, state, local or other law, TRD expressly disclaims the implied warranties of merchantability and of fitness for a particular purpose, even if this catalog or any other materials mention a particular purpose for a Race or Off-Highway Use Part. TRD also disclaims all liability for direct, indirect, special, incidental or consequential damages, including, but not limited to, damage to or loss of personal property, loss of profits or revenue, cost of purchase of replacement goods, or claims of customers of the purchaser that result from the use of any and all Race or Off-Road Use Parts contained in this catalog. Race or Off-Highway Use Parts are for race or off-highway purposes only. Vehicles equipped with Race or Off-Highway Use Parts should not be operated on public roads. TRD offers Race or Off-Highway Use Parts for track or off-highway competitive or performance use only. Installation of any Race or Off-Highway Use Part on a vehicle operated on public roads may violate federal, state or local laws or regulations including, but not limited to, emission requirements and motor vehicle safety standards. In California these parts may legally be used only on a racing vehicle that will never be operated on public roads. In addition, federal statutes, regulations and laws in many states prohibit the removal, modification, alteration or disconnecting of any parts or elements of a vehicle’s design affecting emissions or safety on vehicles intended for use on public streets or highways. TRD customers are responsible for ensuring that the use of any TRD Race or Off-Road Use Part complies with all applicable federal, state or local laws, regulations and ordinances.

Installation of Race or Off-Highway Use Parts may adversely affect the warranty coverage on your vehicle. The addition of Race or Off-Highway Use Parts on a vehicle is not covered by the vehicle warranty and any failure that they may cause is also not covered by the vehicle warranty.

Race or Off-Highway Use Parts may not be installed by a Toyota or Scion dealer on a vehicle intended for use on public roads. Race or Off-Highway Use Parts should not be sold or financed in conjunction with the sale of a new vehicle.

Race or Off-Highway Use Parts offered in this catalog are listed below:

PTR05-35061 cold air intake 4RUNNER (V6) ’03 – ’09
PTR05-35061 cold air intake FJ CRUISER ’07 - ’09
PTR03-21060 cold air intake SCION tC ’05 – ’06
PTR03-21070 cold air intake SCION tC ’07 - ’09
PTR03-52060 cold air intake SCION xB ’06
PTR05-35061 cold air intake tacoma (V6) ’05 – ’09
PTR03-52070 cold air intake YARIS ’06 – ’09
FOR MORE INFORMATION ON TRD PARTS, ACCESSORIES OR WARRANTY, PLEASE CALL 800-688-5912.

The Magnuson-Moss Warranty
https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/15/chapter-50

The Magnuson-Moss Warranty – Federal Trade Commission Improvement Act of 1975 protects consumers from such fraudulent activity by new car dealers. Under this Act, aftermarket equipment that improves performance does not void a vehicle manufacturer’s original warranty, unless the warranty clearly states the addition of aftermarket equipment automatically voids your vehicle’s warranty or if it can be proven that the aftermarket device is the direct cause of the failure. The easiest way to check this is to look in your owner’s manual under, “what is not covered”. Under Magnusson-Moss Act a dealer must prove, not just vocalize, that aftermarket equipment caused the need for repairs before they can deny warranty coverage. If they cannot prove such a claim or offer an explanation, it is your legal right to demand compliance with the warranty. The Federal Trade Commission (202 326-3128) administers the Magnusson-Moss Act and monitors compliance with warranty law.

Consumer Bill of Rights
from SEMA Action Network

Your Rights to Personalize Your Vehicle

ARTICLE ONE: You have the Right to buy high-quality, reliable aftermarket performance and specialty parts, accessories and styling options.

ARTICLE TWO: You have the Right to use high-quality aftermarket parts and know that your new car warranty claims will be honored. In fact, your vehicle dealer may not reject a warranty claim simply because an aftermarket product is present. A warranty denial under such circumstances may be proper only if an aftermarket part caused the failure being claimed.

ARTICLE THREE: You have the Right to install and use emissions-legal aftermarket performance parts without incurring hassles and onerous procedures during state vehicle emissions inspections.

ARTICLE FOUR: You have the Right to actively oppose any proposed (or existing) laws or regulations that will reduce your freedom to use aftermarket automotive parts and service or will curtail your ability to take part in the automotive hobbies of your choice.

ARTICLE FIVE: You have the Right to patronize independent retail stores and shops for vehicle parts and service. The U.S. aftermarket offers the world's finest selection of performance and specialty parts, accessories and styling options. These aftermarket products satisfy the most discriminating customers seeking personalized vehicles for today's lifestyle.

The foregoing message is brought to you by the Specialty Equipment Market Association (SEMA). If you would like our guidelines on what to do if your new car warranty is denied, check out the Warranty Denied? section of our web site.

New Vehicle Warranties And Your Rights

No aftermarket part or accessory that is properly installed on your vehicle will entirely void your original vehicle manufacturers warranty. According to the provisions in the Magnuson-Moss Warranty - Federal Trade Commission Improvement Act. It is the dealership's responsibility to prove that your modification directly caused or affected the failure you are trying to resolve. With that said, some dealerships are more performance-oriented than others and are more willing to work with customers.

Warranty-related materials, published by the new vehicle manufacturers, state that the installation of aftermarket parts have no effect on the warranty unless such equipment causes the problem that leads to the warranty claim. Nonetheless, some dealers have improperly denied warranty claims even though the claim had nothing to do with aftermarket parts. I.E., just because you install an exhaust system, your suspension failure warranty claim cannot be denied. If you experience a problem with an uncooperative dealership, point out the provisions of the this "FEDERAL ACT". For more information call your vehicle manufacturer or click on the link above to go directly to the Federal Trade Commission's website to find out more about this law.

Is there even more information available to me?

Yes, SEMA, the Specialty Equipment Market Association, has extensive information about this issue. Check out their information at Warranty Denied?

SEMA also keeps track of illegal / unethical practices by dealers regarding this area. If you should have to go to court or to arbitration to settle your warranty complaint, contact SEMA with the details.

What else can I do?

In large cities, there are always other dealers you can do business with. It's a good idea to find out about the most cooperative performance-oriented dealer available to you by checking with clubs, local groups, etc.

If you live in smaller communities, make sure that an uncooperative dealer knows that they are giving you plenty of reason to take you business elsewhere.

If you should have to do that, write the "manufacturer" to tell them that their dealer's activities have caused you to buy from another car company!

[tennisfreak]

Originally Posted by Timmy_Jones

The dealer wanted 2+ hours of labor for each spring (estimate was $900+), they expected to work on my car for a full day. I will not go back there.

Oh the dealer wanted to shove a big fat one up your poop shoot.

Bastards.

[NepeanFR-S]

TRD springs were slow to arrive in Canada but are available now for $1053CDN installed. Not sure what the parts go for but suspect they are in the $500-600 range which would make the labour ~$500 from the dealership.

I'd love to get a set but don't think I can spare the clearance for those rare drives in deep snow.

[Tcoat]

Originally Posted by NepeanFR-S

TRD springs were slow to arrive in Canada but are available now for $1053CDN installed. Not sure what the parts go for but suspect they are in the $500-600 range which would make the labour ~$500 from the dealership.

I'd love to get a set but don't think I can spare the clearance for those rare drives in deep snow.

I drove all winter on my RS*Rs and they are even lower than the TRDs.
Never had one single issue with the deep snow.


Oh and the springs can be bought for $250 so the installed price is highway robbery (except you are now warrantied)

[Chimera]

Originally Posted by Tcoat

I drove all winter on my RS*Rs and they are even lower than the TRDs.
Never had one single issue with the deep snow.

Gotta say goodness I hate snow.. Those pictures are the stuff of my nightmares.