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Old 05-21-2012, 11:04 PM   #43
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Just read the reviews, I am not putting words in the mouths of the Evo reviewers. They disliked (putting it mildly) the BRZ and gave the GT 86 four of five stars. YMMV. If you don't like what they have to say - well don't shoot the messenger.
Not the same reviewer for both cars + they gave the BRZ 5 stars. The only difference, and every other magazine/youtube/tv show mentionned it, in stock form, the BRZ is set to understeer a little more than the 86...
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Old 05-22-2012, 09:06 PM   #44
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Not the same reviewer for both cars + they gave the BRZ 5 stars. The only difference, and every other magazine/youtube/tv show mentionned it, in stock form, the BRZ is set to understeer a little more than the 86...
BRZ was auto too.
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Old 05-23-2012, 06:33 PM   #45
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Well now that we finally have a good comparative review out from MT, it's bye-bye FR-S, hello BRZ for me. I want neutral, not tail-happy.
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Old 05-23-2012, 08:52 PM   #46
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Bit of a change in attitude from your last posts. Now wouldn't you agree you were exaggerating a little bit?

If you ever change the springs, or go to coilovers, pretty much 90% of the handling differences will be gone.

I guess it's time to change your screen name now.
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Old 05-23-2012, 09:46 PM   #47
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I'm an empiricist. I went with the data available at the time. Better data now available from a direct apples to apples comparison leads to a different conclusion. I especially value the input of a proven racer with no axe to grind like Randy.

And I should add that this new data is not the only reason I am shifting to the BRZ. As I have become more acquainted with each of the twins I have come to appreciate the styling of the BRZ more than the FR-S, and the extra features are a draw as well. So I was already on the fence, it was really only the reported handling dynamics that kept me with the FR-S. That parameter has now shifted, luckily before I locked in to an FR-S.

I've already mentioned changing my name in a few other posts. Have to ask the admin about it, I doubt I can do that on my own.
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Old 05-24-2012, 05:31 PM   #48
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Well now that we finally have a good comparative review out from MT, it's bye-bye FR-S, hello BRZ for me. I want neutral, not tail-happy.
Where is this comparison you speak of?
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Where is this comparison you speak of?
It's posted here somewhere - scanned.
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Old 05-24-2012, 07:33 PM   #50
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Where is this comparison you speak of?
I think Scion FR-S (oops, now "Sport-Tech" user name!) was referring to DadHawk's thread here: http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=6776

Skip down to post #6 for the scans of the article.

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