Road Rage: Yourself and others

[tennisfreak]

Originally Posted by HunterGreene

So you are blaming what turns out to be a victim. I have a feeling the cops reviewing this will not charge the truck driver for maintaining his right-of-way.

Nope I'm not solely blaming the truck driver but he is part of the reason that wreck happened.
I think you are being intentionally short sighted for the sake of argument.

That truck driver was intentionally blocking the camaro even after the driver noticed the erratic and dangerous behavior. Truck driver should have "let it go" and avoided the situation.

In fact your own post earlier in the thread that talks about "letting it go" and not being the "tough guy" is in direct contradiction to you defending this truck driver.

Originally Posted by HunterGreene

OP--glad it didn't escalate further. But you are right, we all need to learn to "let it go" sometimes, though I myself am no stranger to the "Red mist" that can just strike out of ego, righteous indignation, or whatever triggers it.

Loving these threads for the "internet tough guy" responses they get.

If you called the police and made a report--absolutely nothing would happen. Its just a he said/he said issue where nobody actually got hurt and nothing was damaged. The report would be one file, but zero time would be spent on it other than filing, and then deleting the report later on.

Also, depending on the law in the state you live in, pulling a gun on someone who hasn't even entered your car or pulled a gun on you themselves can actually put *you* in the wrong and get you prosecuted.

As I said, we'd all be better served by driving carefully and sometimes just taking a deep breath and letting it go.

[fang_gt86]

Originally Posted by DarkSunrise

In NY (where this video was taken), the law is:

Any vehicle which is going slower than the normal speed of traffic must be driven in the right-hand lane or at the right hand side of the road, unless it is passing traffic moving in the same direction or preparing for a left turn..

The whole "normal" speed thing is so confusing. When is normal traffic? Is it 8 in the morning with 90% cars cutting left & right, completely ignoring the speed limit? Is it still "normal" traffic when you gotta do 20 over to keep up on the right lane? Does this mean the min/max speed is irrelevant? Why even have it then?

[HunterGreene]

Originally Posted by tennisfreak

Nope I'm not solely blaming the truck driver but he is part of the reason that wreck happened.
I think you are being intentionally short sighted for the sake of argument.

That truck driver was intentionally blocking the camaro even after the driver noticed the erratic and dangerous behavior. Truck driver should have "let it go" and avoided the situation.

In fact your own post earlier in the thread that talks about "letting it go" and not being the "tough guy" is in direct contradiction to you defending this truck driver.

My point was not whether or not the pickup truck driver should have engaged, more as to who was at fault, but you are correct, the guy should have let it go. The fault, regardless of if he was provoked, goes to the guy who caused the contact between the cars and semi--in this case, the camaro driver.

[DarkSunrise]

Originally Posted by fang_gt86

The whole "normal" speed thing is so confusing. When is normal traffic? Is it 8 in the morning with 90% cars cutting left & right, completely ignoring the speed limit? Is it still "normal" traffic when you gotta do 20 over to keep up on the right lane? Does this mean the min/max speed is irrelevant? Why even have it then?

Agree it's a bit confusing. Some states make clear in their laws that the "normal speed of traffic" can mean speeds in excess of the posted speed limit.

But at the very least, it means you shouldn't be impeding the flow of traffic by sitting in the left lane while cars are trying to get around you (such as the truck driver trying to block the Camaro in). I think we can all agree that part is clear.

[stugray]

Originally Posted by tennisfreak

Nope I'm not solely blaming the truck driver but he is part of the reason that wreck happened.
I think you are being intentionally short sighted for the sake of argument.

That truck driver was intentionally blocking the camaro even after the driver noticed the erratic and dangerous behavior. Truck driver should have "let it go" and avoided the situation.

In fact your own post earlier in the thread that talks about "letting it go" and not being the "tough guy" is in direct contradiction to you defending this truck driver.

Having been in similar situations what I believe that truck driver was waiting for was for the Camaro driver to back the fuck off for long enough to calm down and quit being aggressive.

My guess is that if the camaro had backed off and followed at a legal distance for about 1 mile, that the truck driver would have moved over.

The guy in the camaro didnt back off for even 5 seconds anywhere in that video so he was contributing to an active aggressive behavior.
So while the truck driver "may have" been inciting the camaro driver, he did nothing "wrong" as far as the letter of the law is concerned.

now the "intent" of the "slower traffic keep right" law is to keep assholes from getting all worked up like this guy.

I definitely want to strangle the people who think "If I am going the speed limit then I can park in the fast lane because no-one else should be going faster than me"
Even the higway patrol disagree with this attitude and would prefer the speeders keep speeding without the road rage than to be stuck behind a self proclaimed law-enforcer.

[Rampage]

Originally Posted by 5thGenOwner

What a narcissistic society, that everyone thinks they own the road. I can't help but shake my head and just wonder where it will devolve from here.

Mad Max.

[fang_gt86]

Originally Posted by DarkSunrise

Agree it's a bit confusing. Some states make clear in their laws that the "normal speed of traffic" can mean speeds in excess of the posted speed limit.

But at the very least, it means you shouldn't be impeding the flow of traffic by sitting in the left lane while cars are trying to get around you (such as the truck driver trying to block the Camaro in). I think we can all agree that part is clear.

No doubt that truck is cock-blocking the Camaro, but damn that was a bit too much. Lol

[Special_K]

Can we not forget that the Camaro driver was driving with a BAC of .19 percent? When I see people weaving all over the road like that, I'm not going to be social justice warrior, I'm going to back off by a couple miles and take the first exit.

Was it the truck's fault? Definitely not... Should he have gotten the fuck outta the way of a hammered madman? Yea probably... Just glad everyone is OK.

[fang_gt86]

Originally Posted by Special_K

Can we not forget that the Camaro driver was driving with a BAC of .19 percent? When I see people weaving all over the road like that, I'm not going to be social justice warrior, I'm going to back off by a couple miles and take the first exit.

Was it the truck's fault? Definitely not... Should he have gotten the fuck outta the way of a hammered madman? Yea probably... Just glad everyone is OK.

This is my #1 rule of thumb. Keep the f*ck away from packs, unless I absolutely have to.