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Old 04-24-2015, 11:58 AM   #99
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Your butt dyno must be amaaaaazing. Ever heard of the "placebo effect," brah?
You do realize weight of spare is the same as weight adjustment performed during typical corner balancing with only 20-25lb adjustments. Exaplen: http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=22083 Now you are actually removing the weights.

The weight of spare is also equivalent to 1/2 tank of fuel. And the difference that you can feel or no?
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The noticeable difference of adding 20 gallons of gas to these cars would indeed be huge!
- Very irate gas station attendant for pouring 7 gallons of gas on his lot
- Possible Fire Department response
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- Gas from the huge pool splashing up under your car as you drive away could catch fire
- Your car would smell like crap for at least an hour or two
You do realize weight of spare is the same as weight adjustment performed during typical corner balancing with only 20-25lb adjustments. Example here: http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=22083 now you are actually removing the weights.

The weight of spare is also equivalent to 1/2 tank of fuel. And the difference that you can feel or no?
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Old 04-24-2015, 12:04 PM   #101
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You do realize weight of spare is the same as weight adjustment performed during typical corner balancing with only 20-25lb adjustments. As seen:
http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=22083

The weight of spare is also equivalent to 1/2 tank of fuel. And the difference that you can feel or no?
You're speaking to a totally different experience (racing, I think) than the normal DD experience most everyone else who drives this car has. Is a 25 lbs weight difference (if its even that much) that much more noticeable to me? No. Am I going to be that anal about my car? F*ck no, I'm going to enjoy it as it is and not make relatively tiny adjustments just so I can think it feels better without any objective proof of major benefit. I'm just not that hardcore, sorry.

But hey, whatever helps you sleep at night, dude.
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You're speaking to a totally different experience (racing, I think) than the normal DD experience most everyone else who drives this car has. Is a 25 lbs weight difference (if its even that much) that much more noticeable to me? No. Am I going to be that anal about my car? F*ck no, I'm going to enjoy it as it is and not make relatively tiny adjustments just so I can think it feels better without any objective proof of major benefit. I'm just not that hardcore, sorry.

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well it's 30lb of wheel and 30lb of fuel removed. there is a change, at least that's the case with 2015 stock. ima putting back the spare cuz the car becomes floppy low fuel
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I've already gotten one flat on I395 right before a road trip, if the nail hadn't mostly plugged the hole it would have had me stuck somewhere in the district waiting for a tow truck to headbutt its way through traffic, should I have taken out the spare. There is always construction around here generating road debris.
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well it's 30lb of wheel and 30lb of fuel removed. there is a change, at least that's the case with 2015 stock. ima putting back the spare cuz the car becomes floppy low fuel
20 lbs, 30 lbs, please be consistent if you are going to claim that amazing amount of difference that nobody else apparently can feel.
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20 lbs, 30 lbs, please be consistent if you are going to claim that amazing amount of difference that nobody else apparently can feel.
There is indeed a difference with 50lb-60lb of weight removed comparable to what you 'should' experience with an empty tank vs full tank.
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You do realize weight of spare is the same as weight adjustment performed during typical corner balancing with only 20-25lb adjustments. Example here: http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=22083 now you are actually removing the weights.

The weight of spare is also equivalent to 1/2 tank of fuel. And the difference that you can feel or no?
You do realize that the 20 gallons of gas you put in your tank is 7 gallons more than it hold right?
You can't even get a basic spec right but you expect us to believe everything else. Grow up dude and come back with real facts not your teenage daydreams.
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You do realize that the 20 gallons of gas you put in your tank is 7 gallons more than it hold right?
You can't even get a basic spec right but you expect us to believe everything else. Grow up dude and come back with real facts not your teenage daydreams.
Obviously it's just a typo as specified in the edit history.

You know the 40liter/30lb difference you feel driving near empty tank vs full tank or not?
if yes, what I'm describing is the drive feeling you get from further 30lb deduction.
if no, maybe lose some weight
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Obviously it's just a typo as specified in the edit history.

You know the 40liter/30lb difference you feel driving near empty tank vs full tank or not?
if yes, what I'm describing is the drive feeling you get from further 30lb deduction.
if no, maybe lose some weight
No I do not notice any difference when dding. And what would my weight have to do with anything? It remains the same with a full or empty tank.
I am sure that with your obvious extensive track time and advanced skill from many years of driving race cars you can tell the difference though.
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No I do not notice any difference when dding. And what would my weight have to do with anything? It remains the same with a full or empty tank.
I am sure that with your obvious extensive track time and advanced skill from many years of driving race cars you can tell the difference though.
Because your fat could potentially damp the underdamped motion. Yeah I agree corner balancing is pointless since no effect will ever be felt by shifting weights 20-50lb or so. Save the 300 bucks for something else.
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Because your fat could potentially damp the underdamped motion. Yeah I agree corner balancing is pointless since no effect will ever be felt by shifting weights 20-50lb or so. Save the 300 bucks for something else.
Why do you think I have fat?
And again how would my constant weight work into your theory?
If balanced to my weight then it does not matter if 100 or 500 pounds.
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Why do you think I have fat?
And again how would my constant weight work into your theory?
If balanced to my weight then it does not matter if 100 or 500 pounds.
low fuel with spare removed, the car does feel little bouncier... i've removed and tried.

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