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Old 04-08-2015, 06:33 PM   #43
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Correct. Not to downplay the twins because yes they are fun to drive in a lot of ways. Just in my opinion/experiences other cars offer a lot in different ways as well.
Agreed. They are definitely fun..... but so are many other cars including many light Japanese RWD sports cars, such as the Miata, 240sx, RX7, S2000, and on and on and on. :P
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Old 04-08-2015, 06:39 PM   #44
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I'm sorry, but the v6 challenger is NOT faster than an 86...
It's not a lot faster than my 6mt brz...
You can feel it pull more, and it does walk...
The v6 challenger is not faster
These statements don't jive.
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Old 04-08-2015, 06:54 PM   #45
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Good job at taking pieces of a post and trying to be cool :P

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Old 04-08-2015, 06:59 PM   #46
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No need to argue on the speed point, it's pretty easy to compare using the same source:

2011 Challenger V6
0-60: 6.4 s
0-100: 17.1 s
1/4 mile: 14.9 @ 94 mph


2013 FR-S
0-60: 6.4 s
0-100: 16.6 s
1/4 mile: 14.9 @ 95 mph


EDIT: Also found a test on the 2015 Challenger:

2015 Challenger V6
0-60: 6.2 s
0-100: 15.5 s
1/4 mile: 14.7 @ 97 mph


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http://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/...v6-test-review
http://media.caranddriver.com/files/...fr-s-specs.pdf
http://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/...ed-test-review
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Old 04-08-2015, 07:18 PM   #47
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I'm driving a hand-me-down 2001 grand caravan right now and it has shown that dodge is not that reliable...


To base your opinion about Dodge reliability on a hand me down vehicle that is 14 years old with many miles (I'm guessing > 100k) is not wise. Who knows what it's been through. Have had and know of many that are as reliable today as they were brand new. Currently own my second Dakota.


I am 6'1 and have travelled with cousins, just over 5'0, whom were very comfortable on the passenger side (front and rear). The only complaint was about vision from the back seat, no windows to speak of.


Given your thoughts and situation, I suggest finding that right type of "party barge" for your needs. I don't really think that either of your choices will be particularly satisfying to you. Yes, both are relatively fun to drive, considering what they are. But I don't think that either is suitable for your needs at this time in your life.
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These statements don't jive.
Good job on not reading the post. I was comparing to the v8 rt. which was clearly stated in the post
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A V6 Challenger...is ALMOST as bad as the driest, dullest, vanilla, mundane, boring, bland, lifeless, frilless, soulless, miserable heap of rolling metal the planet has ever encountered. A Toyota Camry. The V6 Challenger is a small notch above it. The RT is slightly above the hopeless 6 and the srt is barely tolerable.
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A V6 Challenger...is ALMOST as bad as the driest, dullest, vanilla, mundane, boring, bland, lifeless, frilless, soulless, miserable heap of rolling metal the planet has ever encountered. A Toyota Camry. The V6 Challenger is a small notch above it. The RT is slightly above the hopeless 6 and the srt is barely tolerable.
Yep!
Loved the looks. Hated the test drive (with a passion and I really wanted to like it).
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A V6 Challenger...is ALMOST as bad as the driest, dullest, vanilla, mundane, boring, bland, lifeless, frilless, soulless, miserable heap of rolling metal the planet has ever encountered. A Toyota Camry. The V6 Challenger is a small notch above it. The RT is slightly above the hopeless 6 and the srt is barely tolerable.
But the V6 Camry is actually faster compared to the V6 Challenger
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But the V6 Camry is actually faster compared to the V6 Challenger
Thats the problem with both automotive abortions....it doesnt matter in the least. have you driven either one? They are life suckers. Stay away, dont even look at them.
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A V6 Challenger...is ALMOST as bad as the driest, dullest, vanilla, mundane, boring, bland, lifeless, frilless, soulless, miserable heap of rolling metal the planet has ever encountered. A Toyota Camry. The V6 Challenger is a small notch above it. The RT is slightly above the hopeless 6 and the srt is barely tolerable.
Except the Camry has a nicer interior and better performance (if it's V6)

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Thats the problem with both automotive abortions....it doesnt matter in the least. have you driven either one? They are life suckers. Stay away, dont even look at them.
V6 Camry being a life sucker? You've never driven one in anger have you? It's a sleeper from hell and faster than a hell of a lot of other cars on the road. It's looks allow you to do all sorts of stupid shit in it and not attract attention from the police.

The 4 cylinder one isn't nearly as good, but it's still far from "life sucking." What to know what qualifies for that? Dodge Neon, Dodge Caliber, Dodge Avenger, Chevy HHR... Frankly I had more fun in a 3 cylinder 1.0 Geo Metro than any of those cars.
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I actually posted this thread a while back and ended up with a 2014 frs, I'm very happy with my choice and absolutely love it.
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[QUOTE=jdv14476;2204911]To base your opinion about Dodge reliability on a hand me down vehicle that is 14 years old with many miles (I'm guessing > 100k) is not wise.

It only has about 70k miles and it was bought new by my parents. I'm not bashing on dodge, I like challengers. But the reliability issues were small things breaking, for example, window motors, oil leaks, belts...just random easy fix things I mostly did myself. It was just annoying, you know? It was a good car, just got sick of driving it everywhere and picking up girls in it lol. Loooove the frs
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Except the Camry has a nicer interior and better performance (if it's V6)



V6 Camry being a life sucker? You've never driven one in anger have you? It's a sleeper from hell and faster than a hell of a lot of other cars on the road. It's looks allow you to do all sorts of stupid shit in it and not attract attention from the police.

The 4 cylinder one isn't nearly as good, but it's still far from "life sucking." What to know what qualifies for that? Dodge Neon, Dodge Caliber, Dodge Avenger, Chevy HHR... Frankly I had more fun in a 3 cylinder 1.0 Geo Metro than any of those cars.
Really? A Camry "In anger"? WTF does that even mean? Its a 4 door Mini van with less character. Less? Sorry, no, no character. My NINETY ONE year old aunt has a 2013 V6 Camry. Its a coffin on wheels. Dreadful.
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