tomei single exit vs the rest

[steveholt]

I've always been interested in the lightweight principle of titanium that tomei uses for their catbacks.

How much louder would the type 80 or type 60r be compared to the invidia N1?
and also how much louder or quieter than a berk dual tip muffler delete?

After searching on the forums, it seems that the tomei type 80 produces a lot of drone... is the drone on the type 80 any worse than what i am experiencing in my berk dual muffler delete?

the tomei type 80 would produce a louder and deeper note because of the diameter being wider than the type 60r? is this an accurate estimate?
also, would the type 80 or type 60r produce more of the boxer rumble?

i am currently trying to decide between the invidia n1, tomei type 80, or tomei type 60r. If i went tomei, id like to go with the tomei front pipe track pipe to keep the whole titanium lightweight principle consistent...

any input would be greatly appreciated, thank you everyone

[DAEMANO]

When checking around for a single exit exhaust, I also found the Tanabe Medallion Concept G. It's a single exit exhaust, but made of stainless instead of titanium. It's very light weighing only 22 lbs. The catback also has a resonator in the mid-pipe so it's a lot quieter than the Tomei pipes that are so loud they seem to really be suited for track use only (even with a silencer they're loud). Check it out if you haven't already as a lightweight single exit option that might be more liveable.

http://www.tanabe-usa.com/conceptg.asp?id=8.asp

[steveholt]

Originally Posted by DAEMANO

When checking around for a single exit exhaust, I also found the Tanabe Medallion Concept G. It's a single exit exhaust, but made of stainless instead of titanium. It's very light weighing only 22 lbs. The catback also has a resonator in the mid-pipe so it's a lot quieter than the Tomei pipes that are so loud they seem to really be suited for track use only (even with a silencer they're loud). Check it out if you haven't already as a lightweight single exit option that might be more liveable.

http://www.tanabe-usa.com/conceptg.asp?id=8.asp

thanks for the suggestion.

isn't titanium more durable and last longer than steel?

[DAEMANO]

Originally Posted by steveholt

thanks for the suggestion.

isn't titanium more durable and last longer than steel?

Yes it is, but it's not like steel is a bad material. Take just ok care of your steel exhaust and it will last a very long time. Titanium is generally also a lot more expensive and it tends to resonate at frequencies that are not very pleasing to the ear. Also, titanium is thinner, so exhausts made with them tend to be quite loud. The Tanabe is just another option if you want to shed a lot of weight and still keep streetable noise levels.

[steveholt]

Originally Posted by DAEMANO

Yes it is, but it's not like steel is a bad material. Take just ok care of your steel exhaust and it will last a very long time. Titanium is generally also a lot more expensive and it tends to resonate at frequencies that are not very pleasing to the ear. Also, titanium is thinner, so exhausts made with them tend to be quite loud. The Tanabe is just another option if you want to shed a lot of weight and still keep streetable noise levels.

I am not too concerned with streetable noises fortunately. But I want to keep it classy and not ricey.

I guess the primary question is, would it be worth upgrading to a full catback+front pipe over my current setup which is just a berk dual tip muffler delete axleback? and how the sound quality/intensity compares to my already loud berk dual tip muffler delete.

[steveholt]

Originally Posted by Arigh

I have a 60S which I generally run without a silencer unless I'm making a long trip. Even on long trips, you don't NEED the silencer. It drones a bit, but it's very bearable. You can easily hold a conversation without the silencer, and the exhaust note is significantly better than most dual-exit exhausts I've heard.

I haven't had the opportunity to hear an 80 or 60R, unfortunately.

Any difficulties with installing/uninstalling the silencer?

Don't the tomeis look a bit atrocious with the silencers on? im basing this off of youtube videos ive seen with the silencers on...

The 60s is something I have eliminated from consideration since the 60r and 80 seem to be the most substantial in sound gains. I want something substantially louder than stock not just marginal. My Berk dual tip muffler delete is already pretty loud as is so i think i might be able to tolerate either the 80 or 60r? I just don't know how much louder/quieter it would be

The Invidia N1 is something i might be considering and from what others have said in this forum, the silencers for the most part don't fit in the Invidia N1s.

[NLSP]

I'll share my opinion. I'm leaving the Type-80 out unless you got plans for forced induction soon. Invidia I wouldn't even consider since Tomei are the other options.

I've got the Tomei 60S, and I think you're underestimating how loud it really is, even though it's considered to be the "quietest" model, especially if you're planning to add the Tomei front pipe. You have to also consider the fact that the 60S with the stock front pipe would be the most refined/classy sounding combination (in my opinion), whereas the 60R + Tomei front pipe would be the most ricey (due to lack of cat AND muffler). Have a listen for yourself. The white car is 60R and Tomei front pipe, and the blue car is 60S with stock front pipe. Acceleration in the blue car starts at the 1:00 mark

[ame="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vQrwVefL4GU"]Tomei Expreme Ti Test Pipe + Expreme Ti Catback Exhaust on 2013 Subaru BRZ Sound Clip - YouTube[/ame]

[ame="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zsa4I3ZSVMA"]Tomei Type-60S Drive Bys and Revs - Scion FRS and Subaru BRZ - YouTube[/ame]


I would suggest getting the 60S first, which is substantially louder than stock, not just marginally. If that's not loud enough for you, then get the front pipe.

[steveholt]

Originally Posted by NLSP

I'll share my opinion. I'm leaving the Type-80 out unless you got plans for forced induction soon. Invidia I wouldn't even consider since Tomei are the other options.

I've got the Tomei 60S, and I think you're underestimating how loud it really is, even though it's considered to be the "quietest" model, especially if you're planning to add the Tomei front pipe. You have to also consider the fact that the 60S with the stock front pipe would be the most refined/classy sounding combination (in my opinion), whereas the 60R + Tomei front pipe would be the most ricey (due to lack of cat AND muffler). Have a listen for yourself. The white car is 60R and Tomei front pipe, and the blue car is 60S with stock front pipe. Acceleration in the blue car starts at the 1:00 mark

I would suggest getting the 60S first, which is substantially louder than stock, not just marginally. If that's not loud enough for you, then get the front pipe.

thanks for your input.

The only reason why it may seem that I am underestimating the tomei 60s is because I currently run a berk dual tip muffler delete and that is quite loud in itself. Unfortuantely no one has provided insight on how the berk dual muffler delete compares to the tomei 60r, 80 and invidia n1...

my whole debate and indecision is based solely on how loud my berk dual tip muffler delete is right now. I run everything stock except for the berk dual tip muffer delete axleback

i don't plan forced induction for at least 1 year minimum so this may potentially leave the 80 out of contention but i am still curious and want to futureproof myself to the best of my abilities.

[JimmyMac]

The 80R is a lot louder than the N1. I would say embarrassingly loud at wot in NA or even turbo form. I ran the N1 in NA form for awhile but dumped it because I got tire of my ears ringing after road trips. This was with full exhaust (header, over and front pipe). I switched to the stock catback and all was great. Then prepping for my turbo install I put on my 80r while still running NA. I felt like I lost a ton of bottom end torque. I just got a lot of loud obnoxious noise. Top end felt ok though.

If you are gonna stay NA, I wouldn't get the 80r unless if you want to be an obnoxious ricer. The Tomei is a great high quality exhaust and very aesthetically pleasing to me, I just wish they made the 80r design in a 60 form. That's my 2cent. Hehe

[steveholt]

Originally Posted by JimmyMac

The 80R is a lot louder than the N1. I would say embarrassingly loud at wot in NA or even turbo form. I ran the N1 in NA form for awhile but dumped it because I got tire of my ears ringing after road trips. This was with full exhaust (header, over and front pipe). I switched to the stock catback and all was great. Then prepping for my turbo install I put on my 80r while still running NA. I felt like I lost a ton of bottom end torque. I just got a lot of loud obnoxious noise. Top end felt ok though.

If you are gonna stay NA, I wouldn't get the 80r unless if you want to be an obnoxious ricer. The Tomei is a great high quality exhaust and very aesthetically pleasing to me, I just wish they made the 80r design in a 60 form. That's my 2cent. Hehe

thanks for your insight on this. i want to stay as distant as i can from the ricer sound.

I think I may be inching closer to eliminating the 80 out of consideration.

the biggest issue is that there is no benchmark on how louder or quieter the tomei line and invidia n1 is compared to the berk dual tip muffler delete axlebck i currenlty run

[Cole]

I have the 60R with OpenFlash headers. The 60R was decently loud, but not stupid loud before the headers. I never used the silencer and just loved the sound of the exhaust. Now with the headers, I love the sound even more, but my neighbours probably want to kill me. So with the headers and 60R with the silencer in, it's definitely livable unless you get on the throttle.

It's also a nice, low rumble sound at idle, then starts screaming around 5k

[Valentino]

Originally Posted by JimmyMac

I just wish they made the 80r design in a 60 form. That's my 2cent.

+1

[tumbla.jr]

Another option is from Ultimate Racing. I'm running their 3" single exit and I love it. The sound is very smooth and best of all no drone !

http://www.ultimate-racing.com/xcart...cat=132&page=1

[ame="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IXfRXVOeWxU"]FRS/BRZ 3" Single Exit Catback Exhaust - YouTube[/ame]

[Jdogg88]

I love the sound my type 80 makes, it's honestly not as loud as everyone says it is. There's a slight drone when at highway speeds, but if you're listening to music, it drowns the drone out. I'm still able to have conversations with my passengers and any call over Bluetooth don't pick the exhaust sound up too much. It's loud really only when you take it up to redline but if you drive normal, it's not as audible as you think a fart can looking exhaust would be.