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Old 03-27-2015, 03:19 PM   #29
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Although removing it is nice, the spring is NOT the main issue.
Well the main issue is that our current setup has too much leverage over the clutch right? So this reduces some of that leverage, so why not? :P

Will try this when I finally get a spare weekend with my car.
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Well the main issue is that our current setup has too much leverage over the clutch right? So this reduces some of that leverage, so why not? :P

Will try this when I finally get a spare weekend with my car.
Oh, I wholeheartedly endorse removing the assist spring. I did it right after swapping out my slave.

Technically, removing the spring does not change the leverage. The clutch will be a little stiffer and you will gain back the linearity of the clutch springs against your foot.

It's still vague as shit because it's such a loooooong arc.
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Old 03-28-2015, 12:49 AM   #31
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HUGE TIP for anyone removing the spring once they remove the pin. With the clutch pedal not being pushed down, place a screwdriver or something stiff behind the clutch pedal so that it pushes on the spring when you push the clutch pedal down. Now all you have to do is push the clutch pedal down hard enough that the spring is pushed out (from behind the pedal towards the seat) by the screwdriver that is obstructing the way. Also, the spring didn't go flying when I tried this which I was afraid of.

Anyway, here's my results. This is the BEST thing I've done to my BRZ yet. And it was free! I've never driven my car with a bigger smile on my face. Shifting through the gears feels so good and natural now. Getting the car going from first gear and reverse is so trivial now. There's no more guessing where the clutch engagement point is. I can FEEL it now. I just want to drive my car everywhere now, it's amazing how much of a difference in driving enjoyment there is! My car actually feels faster after doing this, probably because I'm more focused on driving instead of the dumby clutch pedal. Who's idea was it to put a spring on the clutch pedal anyway?

One more thing I wanted to mention. I've only got to drive once since removing the spring, but while driving there was an odd rubbery smell in the car that I've never smelled before. I was afraid the clutch was slipping and burning, but that doesn't make sense. I think it was just coincidence, maybe there was something in the air outside that I was smelling. Was wondering if this happened to anyone else.
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Old 03-31-2015, 12:38 PM   #32
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The original thread that details this mod is pretty old now and was not posted in the DIY section, if I recall. This is one of the best mods you can do to our cars. Stop hating your clutch and spend the 10 minutes doing this and I promise you, you will be a very happy driver

Also, if doing this, I would strongly recommend lowering the pedal at the same time: http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=8040
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Thanks, I might give this a shot sometime soon, I just know that someday the clutch is going to have to be replaced and I wonder if I'll end up having to reverse this when that comes around...
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Thanks, I might give this a shot sometime soon, I just know that someday the clutch is going to have to be replaced and I wonder if I'll end up having to reverse this when that comes around...
Like @Koa suggested for us. Just keep the old one handy.
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Thanks, I might give this a shot sometime soon, I just know that someday the clutch is going to have to be replaced and I wonder if I'll end up having to reverse this when that comes around...
You won't. 98% of manuals don't have this spring and it literally only affects the portion of the pedal sticking through the firewall.
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You won't. 98% of manuals don't have this spring and it literally only affects the portion of the pedal sticking through the firewall.
Yeah, I was referring to @Ultramaroon 's suggestion to swap the slave cylinder.
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Even tho I've gotten really used to the stock clutch i'm definitely trying this when I get a chance.

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I did the modification about a week or two ago. Didn't notice that much of a pressure increase but definitely feels more like a clutch than a on-off switch. The engagement point is felt more easily, and modulation too.

Oh, and now my Camry's clutch doesn't feel like a truck clutch (when I change cars)
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Thanks for the instructions they were very helpful! One question though, does your clutch have a bit of "play" before you put a lot of pressure on the clutch pedal?
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Old 04-23-2015, 09:02 AM   #40
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OK, so I spent like 20 minutes trying to wedge myself far enough under my dash to do this, but my shoulders are too wide. Pushed the seat all the way back, and can only get one arm in, without the needed leverage to get the c-clip off.

Any suggestions, short of removing the driver's seat? I suppose I could try (much) longer pliers. If I could get my left arm in, this whole thing would be a cinch.
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How To: Clutch Spring Removal in 15 Minutes

I've got the e clip and pin off but the spring won't budge still. How did you guys get the spring off?

Edit: never mind. I managed to get it off.

And wow what a difference. I've been driving with the spring for two years!

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So did others reattach this piece? I took this piece, the spring, the pin and the e clip off and never reinstalled any of it.
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