2014 Ford Fiesta ST vs 2014 Subaru BRZ - Page 8 - Toyota GR86, 86, FR-S and Subaru BRZ Forum & Owners Community

tehwegz · 03-13-2015, 02:05 AM

bumping this.

Here a Fi-ST can be had $26k with far more options. I don't care its FWD.

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Originally Posted by GT86meMR2

A Fiesta ST is faster where? there are alot of them here and stock for stock they are around the same in straight line performance.. they both arent that fast but the ST feels a little quicker because of the boost...

In higher elevations turbocharged cars have an advantage. Also bolt-ons and tune its making something like 200whp/300wtq at some low RPM (max torque on a stock Fi-ST is made at 3400rpm I believe).

In my elevation a Toyobaru makes something stupid like 150whp/130wtq.

GT86meMR2 · 03-13-2015, 06:15 AM

So It's pretty much the Same as in the vs wrx section.. The fiesta is better because It came with a Factory turbo and has soms easier power to Be had? Anyway to get more Than Your 200whp out of that CAR You Will need to do alot of work to the engine.. And when You get soms serieus power the CAR being fwd Will Be Your next problem.. I can See what You like about it though when You only want do soms mild mods the Car is Great for the money

DohcTor · 03-13-2015, 08:42 AM

Was really surprised to see that the fiesta at beat the 86 around the track. Ford is kicking butt in this department. The people reviewing the fiesta even went as far as to say that it felt lik a RWD car. Congrats ford !

Dadhawk · 03-13-2015, 09:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Timmy_Jones

What is wrong with the Fiesta ST: Front Wheel Drive, Ugly, absolutely horrific seating position

What is wrong with the twins: It's slow

Which is easier to remedy? Case closed...I am sick of being nice to the Fiesta ST guys who crap all over the 86 platform.

Anyone ever disliked a car because of the crowd who drives them?

Actually, in this comparison the "what is wrong with the twins" is incorrect, at least based on this review. If the 86 is slow, the ST is slower, particularly given the ST is ALREADY turbocharged. Stick a turbocharger on the 86 and the 86 wins by more margin.

In the end, I'm in the "yea, but its still a freakin' Ford Focus" camp. Sorry but I have never understood the attraction to "hot hatches". I agree they are more practical, but I don't buy a sports car for practicality. I'll do what I did, buy a sports car and buy a used "practical" car for when I need one. That combination cost me $36,000. Seems like a win/win to me.

thill · 03-13-2015, 09:20 AM

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Originally Posted by DohcTor

Was really surprised to see that the fiesta at beat the 86 around the track. Ford is kicking butt in this department. The people reviewing the fiesta even went as far as to say that it felt lik a RWD car. Congrats ford !

The other thing that Ford is kicking butt at is offering more power through their performance division and it does not void your powertrain warranty if you go through a dealer. It would be nice if Subaru and Toyota would offer performance divisions with real power updates that don't screw with your warranty.

funwheeldrive · 03-13-2015, 12:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Dadhawk

In the end, I'm in the "yea, but its still a freakin' Ford Focus" camp. Sorry but I have never understood the attraction to "hot hatches". I agree they are more practical, but I don't buy a sports car for practicality. I'll do what I did, buy a sports car and buy a used "practical" car for when I need one. That combination cost me $36,000. Seems like a win/win to me.

Or you could have a sports car and and a sporty practical car.

Dadhawk · 03-13-2015, 12:26 PM

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Originally Posted by funwheeldrive

Or you could have a sports car and and a sporty practical car.

Hard to find a sporty practical car that hauls/pulls like a Suburban if that is the capacity you need. Unless, of course, it is a Suburban with a big honking supercharger attached to it....yea, now there's the ticket.

continuecrushing · 03-13-2015, 02:14 PM

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Originally Posted by thill

The other thing that Ford is kicking butt at is offering more power through their performance division and it does not void your powertrain warranty if you go through a dealer. It would be nice if Subaru and Toyota would offer performance divisions with real power updates that don't screw with your warranty.

they gave us body kits with warranty. Isn't that good enough lol?

Why be fast, when you can just look like it!

continuecrushing · 03-13-2015, 02:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Dadhawk

Hard to find a sporty practical car that hauls/pulls like a Suburban if that is the capacity you need. Unless, of course, it is a Suburban with a big honking supercharger attached to it....yea, now there's the ticket.

trailblazer ss, jeep srt8 or raptor haha

tahdizzle · 03-13-2015, 02:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Shutter

trailblazer ss, jeep srt8 or raptor haha

Trailblazer SS was legit.

strat61caster · 03-13-2015, 02:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Dadhawk

Hard to find a sporty practical car that hauls/pulls like a Suburban if that is the capacity you need. Unless, of course, it is a Suburban with a big honking supercharger attached to it....yea, now there's the ticket.

[ame="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hf5lLMCWWYc"]Black Smoke Racing Best of 2011 - YouTube[/ame]

thill · 03-13-2015, 03:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Shutter

they gave us body kits with warranty. Isn't that good enough lol?

Why be fast, when you can just look like it!

Good point, those body kits add what, 8-10 hp?

Dadhawk · 03-13-2015, 04:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Shutter

trailblazer ss, jeep srt8 or raptor haha

I'll add this to the list...

Hennesey Yukon (also available for Suburban and Tahoe) 665HP, 658FT-lb.

Here it is racing a Hellcat. Sadly, it does jump the light though.

[ame="https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=gjBiVEzr7dg"]665 HP 2015 GMC Denali vs Hellcat Drag Race - YouTube[/ame]

thill · 03-13-2015, 04:23 PM

That's crazy power... I got surprised by a Trailblazer SS once...

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