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Old 03-05-2015, 02:33 PM   #141
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Take a FR-S Monogram or Release series which are close to $30k and put them against a Z on the track.

The Z would win every category hands down.
Of course that's the case, you took a $25k performance car and stuck $5k worth of cosmetic crap on it and compared it to a $30k performance car.

The least you can do is use the $5k difference to make it faster but if that's what the conversation devolves into then neither car wins the "How fast can you go for $30k while still driving it to work" competition.
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Old 03-05-2015, 06:02 PM   #142
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Of course that's the case, you took a $25k performance car and stuck $5k worth of cosmetic crap on it and compared it to a $30k performance car.

The least you can do is use the $5k difference to make it faster but if that's what the conversation devolves into then neither car wins the "How fast can you go for $30k while still driving it to work" competition.
I took factory optioned cars and compared them, that is all.
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Old 03-05-2015, 08:55 PM   #143
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I rented a Hyundai i10 in Mexico last week. It has 79hp. Yup, 79. It also had a lazy manual transmission that had syncros that would flip out if you shifted at anything faster than 1/4 of normal speed, terrible brakes, etc.

Not that I had any expectations, but I only bring it up because with everybody who calls the twins slow, this absolutely re calibrated what a slow car really is. I'd wager it was a full 16 seconds for this pile to hit 60mph. By comparison, getting home to my Frs was like hopping into a viper.

I know our cars aren't all that fast, but to call them slow is just absurd.
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Old 03-06-2015, 09:15 AM   #144
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Taking anything from jalopnik seriously, lulz.
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Old 03-07-2015, 05:20 PM   #145
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There are many on this forum who do not speak highly of the 370z because we were infested by hordes of trolls from their site a couple of years back...needless to say, it put me off of their community
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Old 03-08-2015, 12:16 PM   #146
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There are many on this forum who do not speak highly of the 370z because we were infested by hordes of trolls from their site a couple of years back...needless to say, it put me off of their community
Test drove a brand new 370z Nissmo yesterday. The car itself was great. Pulled hard, nice look, great sound, and I really like the way it looked.


2 things put me off.
1. The price was $45k
2. The sales staff and manager in particular were ****s


Hyper aggressive staff and manager refused to give me the price of the car without some personal info.
The situation damn near felt hostile. He asked me what I wanted to pay and I told him $35k.
He told me to be realistic and not waste his time.
I told him he asked so I told.
He asked what I based it off of. I told him I based if off the fact I could get a brand new Mustang GT with track pack and recaro racing seat for $35k (which was true because I had just come from Ford with an offer).
He laughed and then told me $42 was the lowest he could go.


Anyways, the 370z Nissmo would be a great car for even $38k but over $40k its a joke.
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Old 03-08-2015, 02:22 PM   #147
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Test drove a brand new 370z Nissmo yesterday. The car itself was great. Pulled hard, nice look, great sound, and I really like the way it looked.


2 things put me off.
1. The price was $45k
2. The sales staff and manager in particular were ****s


Hyper aggressive staff and manager refused to give me the price of the car without some personal info.
The situation damn near felt hostile. He asked me what I wanted to pay and I told him $35k.
He told me to be realistic and not waste his time.
I told him he asked so I told.
He asked what I based it off of. I told him I based if off the fact I could get a brand new Mustang GT with track pack and recaro racing seat for $35k (which was true because I had just come from Ford with an offer).
He laughed and then told me $42 was the lowest he could go.


Anyways, the 370z Nissmo would be a great car for even $38k but over $40k its a joke.
Well you kinda were wasting their time.... If your budget was 35k why didn't you test drive the370z sport or sport tech?
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Old 03-08-2015, 07:29 PM   #148
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Well you kinda were wasting their time.... If your budget was 35k why didn't you test drive the370z sport or sport tech?
Budget was not 35k, but I thought the car was only worth $38k.

The price is what made it nissmo z such a huge disappointment. Their sport models can be had for <=$30k easily. Nissmo is not worth $15k more.

I ended up putting in a custom order on a new corvette yesterday. Figured if I was gonna spend over $40k may as well go while hog!��
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Old 03-08-2015, 08:50 PM   #149
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But 370Zs are fairly plentiful, while the Nismo is a bit rarer. Don't expect the same discount.
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Old 03-08-2015, 09:04 PM   #150
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But 370Zs are fairly plentiful, while the Nismo is a bit rarer. Don't expect the same discount.
I see where he's coming from. The only thing I like more on the nismo is the body kit. It's just not worth the price at all.

Z w/ sport pack I believe is worth 30k. It's a good value for the money, I just had the same situation as tennis freak. I absolutely loathed and hated my dealership experience with nissan. The salesman was a total ass and was pressuring beyond belief.

the toyota dealership across the street? They saw I was interested and tossed me the keys to a MT FRS they had on lot. Night and day difference and if I was just a casual car shopper that alone would have swayed my purchase.
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Old 03-08-2015, 09:47 PM   #151
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I agree. I didn't say it was worth the price of admission, I was just saying that the prices of Nismos wont get slashed the way they do the standard Zs.
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I agree. I didn't say it was worth the price of admission, I was just saying that the prices of Nismos wont get slashed the way they do the standard Zs.
That's true. I didn't mean to imply you weren't correct.
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But 370Zs are fairly plentiful, while the Nismo is a bit rarer. Don't expect the same discount.
I agree the nissmo is more rare but this dealership had 4.
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