Some Pre-Delivery Shenanigans we should all be mindful of... - Page 2 - Toyota GR86, 86, FR-S and Subaru BRZ Forum & Owners Community

MmmHamSandwich · 05-17-2012, 05:10 PM

If the order is in your name and especially if you have a deposit down then it is your car. It should be treated as sold.

If my dealer pulled this shit I'd be more than happy to take my deposit back and tell all about it on the forums. Tell your dealer if they want a demo car they can sure as hell get one. They have no right to use yours.

PecanSandies · 05-17-2012, 05:14 PM

Yeah well it hasnt arrived yet some I'm going in next week to unleash a shit storm on them for even considering using my car for test drives I'll keep you updated lol

Dave-ROR · 05-17-2012, 05:25 PM

My dealership ended up being fairly smart in this regard also.. order #6 which is actually coming in the first batch ended up being for the "owners son".. it's a 6AT Limited.. and it was ordered as a demo vehicle.

I'm more nervous about the truck drivers doing deliveries, whom I've seen and heard of slamming cars on the ground by driving them way too fast off those trucks.

Lighting Red · 05-17-2012, 05:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Subaruwrxfan

I would tell them to give you demo pricing on the car (like 3k off invoice at least), and they should be added to the dealer blacklist. Crap like this makes my blood boil as well. I dunno how you're so calm. I would have gone nuclear if I found that out about my dealership.

With my old 2004 WRX, which I bought "new" with 456 miles on the clock I learned the hard way about the importance of the break-in period. It actually costed me a engine, out of pocket!

I am glad the OP caught that practice because it is soooo dealer black-list worthy IMO. If my dealer did that to my car, or attempted to, then I would tell them to sit on it. I would also tell everybody what they did to my car.

Lighting Red · 05-17-2012, 05:34 PM

PecanSandies: after reading your post again, I would encourage you to add that dealer to the black-list. If what you are saying is true (and I have no reason not to believe you), then that dealer WAS going to demo the hell out of YOUR car. To hell with them... as if you did not wait long enough for your car, only to find that it was gang-banged! Behind your back no less?!

A poorly broken in car (which is what all the demo-drives would have amounted to) will never run right, and it will let you down big time when you have to perform major repairs, which were not your fault.

Black-list 'em.

PecanSandies · 05-17-2012, 05:36 PM

I'm gonna give them the benefit of the doubt until I talk to them in person next week, rest assured if they try and pull this nonsense I will.

GMU-BRZ · 05-17-2012, 05:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Lighting Red

PecanSandies: after reading your post again, I would encourage you to add that dealer to the black-list. If what you are saying is true (and I have no reason not to believe you), then that dealer WAS going to demo the hell out of YOUR car. To hell with them... as if you did not wait long enough for your car, only to find that it was gang-banged! Behind your back no less?!

A poorly broken in car (which is what all the demo-drives would have amounted to) will never run right, and it will let you down big time when you have to perform major repairs, which were not your fault.

Black-list 'em.

Agreed, if all that is true definitely blacklist worthy.

Cheddar · 05-17-2012, 07:01 PM

Ima write on the deposit slip, if car has more then 15 miles I will not take delivery and I will be 1st inline for the next whiteout FR-S in south Florida lol

nkrein22 · 05-17-2012, 07:07 PM

My dealer is getting a showroom car that is for display and test drives. 6AT WR-Blue premium with fog light kit. I was unaware of this until today. So that dealership is getting 5 cars total. The 1st pre-order and the showroom car are in the first batch set to hit east cost dealers at the end of may. Kind of glad my pre-order will not be for test driving

Calum · 05-17-2012, 07:07 PM

If I get to mine and realize it has enough miles for anything more then the normal mechanical test, I'll walk. I wouldn't even give them a chance to offer another one at invoice. Three grand off isn't enough for the piece of mind that some fu@ktard didn't bend it hitting a curb and then re-align it and replace any broken parts. I didn't give them a deposit MONTHS before to get a used car.

Blacklist them.

Dr.Science · 05-17-2012, 07:22 PM

This makes me want to call SOA directly, because my dealer has absolutely zero information. It's making me suspicious, considering so many others here already have VINs & arrival dates (and some lucky bastards already have cars).

BoxeRZ · 05-17-2012, 08:12 PM

[If my dealer pulled this shit I'd be more than happy to take my deposit back and tell all about it on the forums. Tell your dealer if they want a demo car they can sure as hell get one. They have no right to use yours.[/QUOTE]
I made my pre order in mid March, am 6 of 12 at my dealership, and have a VON. My dealer has been straight forward with me so far, they even signed "sold at MSRP" on original order form before we knew what final cost would be. They never requested a deposit(which I was completely ready to put down) and after reading similar posts to this I am getting a little worried. I am starting to think back to my Business Law 101 class am concerned that since money was not exchanged, making it not binding, they have an out on the agreement. Thinking about going there and forcing them to take $500. I hope I'm just getting paranoid, any suggestions??

ryun84 · 05-17-2012, 08:49 PM

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Originally Posted by PecanSandies

Just got a call from the my salesman/ contact at the dealer I ordered my car from. The dealer failed to tell me for days that they had my VIN and a delivery date and it wasnt until I contacted SOA directly that I received my VIN. Turns out that many of the salespeople at the dealership were already scheduling test drives with my vehicle and were gonna squeeze in as many as possible before they told me my car arrived. I expect many dealers may want to do the same with the first batch of vehicles to eek out some more orders.

Just something to be mindful of I suppose. I am going in Monday to negotiate the final price and handle all this malarcky.

Also thought that we should all post up any words of wisdom you can offer to others as the time to take delivery approaches.

How did you come by this info? Did you grill them until they folded? Not saying it's not true, but I would just expect the stealership to lie through their teeth and never admit to something like this.

PecanSandies · 05-17-2012, 09:03 PM

I was warned by my salesman who said he would try his best to snag the keys and call me asap but that I as the customer should bring it up to prevent it from happening. I'm not releasing the name of the dealership till I speak to them in person I really just wanted to give everyone a heads up before they take delivery of their own car

05-17-2012, 05:25 PM	#17
Dave-ROR Site Moderator Join Date: Dec 2010 Drives: Stuff Location: Florida Posts: 10,317 Thanks: 955 Thanked 5,965 Times in 2,689 Posts Mentioned: 262 Post(s) Tagged: 8 Thread(s)	My dealership ended up being fairly smart in this regard also.. order #6 which is actually coming in the first batch ended up being for the "owners son".. it's a 6AT Limited.. and it was ordered as a demo vehicle. I'm more nervous about the truck drivers doing deliveries, whom I've seen and heard of slamming cars on the ground by driving them way too fast off those trucks. __________________ -Dave Track cars: 2013 Scion FRS, 1998 Acura Integra Type-R, 1993 Honda Civic Hatchback DD: 2005 Acura TSX Tow: 2022 F-450 Toys: 2001 Chevrolet Corvette Z06, 1993 Toyota MR2 Turbo, 1994 Toyota MR2 Turbo, 1991 Mitsubishi Galant VR-4 Parts: 2015 Subaru BRZ Limited, 2005 Acura TSX Projects: 2013 Subaru BRZ Limited track car build FS: 2004 GMC Sierra 2500 LT CCSB 8.1/Allison with 99k miles

05-17-2012, 05:34 PM	#19
Lighting Red Habitual Line Crosser. Join Date: Mar 2012 Drives: ^ Two of my favorite things. Location: Woodbridge, VA Posts: 327 Thanks: 115 Thanked 166 Times in 55 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	PecanSandies: after reading your post again, I would encourage you to add that dealer to the black-list. If what you are saying is true (and I have no reason not to believe you), then that dealer WAS going to demo the hell out of YOUR car. To hell with them... as if you did not wait long enough for your car, only to find that it was gang-banged! Behind your back no less?! A poorly broken in car (which is what all the demo-drives would have amounted to) will never run right, and it will let you down big time when you have to perform major repairs, which were not your fault. Black-list 'em. __________________ But, but, but... It's only 200 hp?!

05-17-2012, 08:12 PM	#26
BoxeRZ Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2012 Drives: 13LTDWRBBRZ6MT Location: Lancaster, PA Posts: 159 Thanks: 89 Thanked 17 Times in 16 Posts Mentioned: 4 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	[If my dealer pulled this shit I'd be more than happy to take my deposit back and tell all about it on the forums. Tell your dealer if they want a demo car they can sure as hell get one. They have no right to use yours.[/QUOTE] I made my pre order in mid March, am 6 of 12 at my dealership, and have a VON. My dealer has been straight forward with me so far, they even signed "sold at MSRP" on original order form before we knew what final cost would be. They never requested a deposit(which I was completely ready to put down) and after reading similar posts to this I am getting a little worried. I am starting to think back to my Business Law 101 class am concerned that since money was not exchanged, making it not binding, they have an out on the agreement. Thinking about going there and forcing them to take $500. I hope I'm just getting paranoid, any suggestions?? __________________ "Subaru is the Japanese name for the Pleiades star cluster, which in turn inspires the Subaru logo and alludes to the six companies that merged to create FHI."

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05-17-2012, 05:10 PM	#15
MmmHamSandwich You know you want it. Join Date: Mar 2012 Drives: '13 FR-S Location: RVA Posts: 705 Thanks: 160 Thanked 327 Times in 154 Posts Mentioned: 9 Post(s) Tagged: 2 Thread(s)	If the order is in your name and especially if you have a deposit down then it is your car. It should be treated as sold. If my dealer pulled this shit I'd be more than happy to take my deposit back and tell all about it on the forums. Tell your dealer if they want a demo car they can sure as hell get one. They have no right to use yours.

05-17-2012, 05:14 PM	#16
PecanSandies Member Join Date: May 2012 Drives: 2003 Mustang GT Location: New Jersey Posts: 14 Thanks: 0 Thanked 5 Times in 1 Post Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Yeah well it hasnt arrived yet some I'm going in next week to unleash a shit storm on them for even considering using my car for test drives I'll keep you updated lol

05-17-2012, 05:36 PM	#20
PecanSandies Member Join Date: May 2012 Drives: 2003 Mustang GT Location: New Jersey Posts: 14 Thanks: 0 Thanked 5 Times in 1 Post Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	I'm gonna give them the benefit of the doubt until I talk to them in person next week, rest assured if they try and pull this nonsense I will.

05-17-2012, 07:01 PM	#22
Cheddar Saving them pennies... Join Date: Apr 2012 Drives: 2013 FR-S Location: Miami, FL Posts: 641 Thanks: 44 Thanked 178 Times in 111 Posts Mentioned: 17 Post(s) Tagged: 3 Thread(s)	Ima write on the deposit slip, if car has more then 15 miles I will not take delivery and I will be 1st inline for the next whiteout FR-S in south Florida lol

05-17-2012, 07:07 PM	#23
nkrein22 Member Join Date: Mar 2012 Drives: 2013 WRB Subaru BRZ Location: Akron, Ohio Posts: 39 Thanks: 8 Thanked 9 Times in 7 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	My dealer is getting a showroom car that is for display and test drives. 6AT WR-Blue premium with fog light kit. I was unaware of this until today. So that dealership is getting 5 cars total. The 1st pre-order and the showroom car are in the first batch set to hit east cost dealers at the end of may. Kind of glad my pre-order will not be for test driving

05-17-2012, 07:07 PM	#24
Calum That Guy Join Date: Dec 2011 Drives: 2013 asphalt FRS MT Location: Halifax, Nova Scotia Posts: 4,865 Thanks: 5,058 Thanked 2,868 Times in 1,499 Posts Mentioned: 82 Post(s) Tagged: 1 Thread(s)	If I get to mine and realize it has enough miles for anything more then the normal mechanical test, I'll walk. I wouldn't even give them a chance to offer another one at invoice. Three grand off isn't enough for the piece of mind that some fu@ktard didn't bend it hitting a curb and then re-align it and replace any broken parts. I didn't give them a deposit MONTHS before to get a used car. Blacklist them.

05-17-2012, 07:22 PM	#25
Dr.Science Member Join Date: Dec 2011 Drives: Formerly: WRB BRZ LTD Location: Los Angeles Posts: 64 Thanks: 76 Thanked 6 Times in 4 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	This makes me want to call SOA directly, because my dealer has absolutely zero information. It's making me suspicious, considering so many others here already have VINs & arrival dates (and some lucky bastards already have cars).

05-17-2012, 09:03 PM	#28
PecanSandies Member Join Date: May 2012 Drives: 2003 Mustang GT Location: New Jersey Posts: 14 Thanks: 0 Thanked 5 Times in 1 Post Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	I was warned by my salesman who said he would try his best to snag the keys and call me asap but that I as the customer should bring it up to prevent it from happening. I'm not releasing the name of the dealership till I speak to them in person I really just wanted to give everyone a heads up before they take delivery of their own car

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