Would you go back to n/a? - Page 2 - Toyota GR86, 86, FR-S and Subaru BRZ Forum & Owners Community

CSG Mike · 03-02-2015, 01:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SPCorBUST

Already did it. 385whp on E85 on the KW SC to ??? on E85 NA. Just tracked at Buttonwillow yesterday. Any less fun? Not really. The peace of mind is definitely nice. Btw, I'm also using Mike at Moto-East as my FlexFuel tuner, as well as his kit.

Changes your perspective when you realize how little time you spend WOT on track

glamcem · 03-02-2015, 02:32 AM

FI is not for everyone, and like you mentioned catalytic converter failure is common, thanks to the restrictive cats on the OEM header.. but those are fairly easy to fix, I think no need to be obsessive about the car especially if the car doesn't see any track days.. I have been having fun with it at the track and I would still go with KW in a heartbeat since the car is really boring in NA form because the torque dip sucks.. if I had an S2000 motor in this car I probably would stay NA for a long time though..

SPCorBUST · 03-02-2015, 02:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CSG Mike

Changes your perspective when you realize how little time you spend WOT on track

Looking forward to the rest of this year for sure! Getting a six pack is one of my to do items for this week.

Tye300 · 03-02-2015, 03:42 AM

Since going supercharged, I've seen the car in a different light in which if go back to NA, it would make it really less enjoyable for me. I tracked the car NA, and track it supercharged now, and the fun factor really is the same NA or supercharged. But boost is like a drug, once you try it, it just would not be the same. The extra upkeep with going aftermarket FI is something you just accept because the car wasn't made that way, and doing that is part of the game. Some people like checking and working on their cars, and some just want to drive it and forget about the upkeep, I belong to the latter and working on my car is part of the journey and I enjoy it.

CSG Mike · 03-02-2015, 04:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by glamcem

FI is not for everyone, and like you mentioned catalytic converter failure is common, thanks to the restrictive cats on the OEM header.. but those are fairly easy to fix, I think no need to be obsessive about the car especially if the car doesn't see any track days.. I have been having fun with it at the track and I would still go with KW in a heartbeat since the car is really boring in NA form because the torque dip sucks.. if I had an S2000 motor in this car I probably would stay NA for a long time though..

I've yet to have heard of a cat failure on any of the Jackson Racing CARB cars...

Derka · 03-02-2015, 07:09 AM

I guess I can take it either way. I also do a have 300whp turbo civic. And that is where a lot of my time goes. I use my frs to drive to work and still have fun.

BRZZZZZZZZZZ · 03-02-2015, 08:28 AM

I wouldn't be able to stand my car daily driving if I went back to N/A. We can barely crack 170WHP N/A with our gas and altitude here and the lack of torque daily driving stock really made it very boring for me.

Freeman · 03-02-2015, 09:13 AM

I couldn't do it. The lack of torque blows. But this car is my toy car, not my daily driver so modifying it and living with the rattles and loose screws and fluid checking before I go cruise the lake roads is just part of the game.

That said, I would never modify my daily driver, because a daily should be hassle free for the most part.

Derka · 03-02-2015, 09:28 AM

Yea good point. This doesn't have to be my daily driver as I also own a 2008 honda fit. Which is used for daily duty. But my wife likes to drive that. And I like to drive my frs because it's not a mini van (honda fit)

D K · 03-02-2015, 02:36 PM

No fucking way!

Kiske · 03-02-2015, 07:40 PM

I can only imagine this is the reason we see some many (still running) FI cars go demod or up for sale. End of the day the headache of the game isn't worth it to some compared to just buying a better car and beating on it.

I don't think I could demod and still be happy afterall that is why I added power. Should I have to go back to stock I'd imagine it would last a mater of weeks before I'd have the car up for sale and be moving on.

It can be very tiring. I think Dezoris said it best. It's fun but, the chicken shit little problems will make it an unenjoyable experience for some.

2much · 03-02-2015, 08:11 PM

If anyone is planning on going back to NA... you can donate FI kits here

bakerr6 · 03-02-2015, 09:27 PM

My wife will tell you I spend more time with my car than her. I wouldn't have it any other way

Boofneenee · 03-02-2015, 09:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kiske

I can only imagine this is the reason we see some many (still running) FI cars go demod or up for sale. End of the day the headache of the game isn't worth it to some compared to just buying a better car and beating on it.

I don't think I could demod and still be happy afterall that is why I added power. Should I have to go back to stock I'd imagine it would last a mater of weeks before I'd have the car up for sale and be moving on.

It can be very tiring. I think Dezoris said it best. It's fun but, the chicken shit little problems will make it an unenjoyable experience for some.

Best post in this thread. Its what keeps me NA at this time

03-02-2015, 02:32 AM	#16
glamcem Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2013 Drives: 2022 BRZ Limited Location: Orange County Posts: 1,553 Thanks: 997 Thanked 607 Times in 404 Posts Mentioned: 32 Post(s) Tagged: 1 Thread(s)	FI is not for everyone, and like you mentioned catalytic converter failure is common, thanks to the restrictive cats on the OEM header.. but those are fairly easy to fix, I think no need to be obsessive about the car especially if the car doesn't see any track days.. I have been having fun with it at the track and I would still go with KW in a heartbeat since the car is really boring in NA form because the torque dip sucks.. if I had an S2000 motor in this car I probably would stay NA for a long time though.. __________________ 2022 BRZ Track Build (A New Chapter)

03-02-2015, 03:42 AM	#18
Tye300 Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2012 Drives: Toyota 86 TRD Version AT Location: Manila, Philippines Posts: 883 Thanks: 548 Thanked 599 Times in 283 Posts Mentioned: 20 Post(s) Tagged: 1 Thread(s)	Since going supercharged, I've seen the car in a different light in which if go back to NA, it would make it really less enjoyable for me. I tracked the car NA, and track it supercharged now, and the fun factor really is the same NA or supercharged. But boost is like a drug, once you try it, it just would not be the same. The extra upkeep with going aftermarket FI is something you just accept because the car wasn't made that way, and doing that is part of the game. Some people like checking and working on their cars, and some just want to drive it and forget about the upkeep, I belong to the latter and working on my car is part of the journey and I enjoy it. __________________ Vortech Supercharged Flex Fuel 86 TRD AT Visit my build thread here.

03-02-2015, 07:40 PM	#25
Kiske Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2013 Drives: RX-7 / BRZ Location: USA Posts: 2,349 Thanks: 1,031 Thanked 2,501 Times in 1,081 Posts Mentioned: 27 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	I can only imagine this is the reason we see some many (still running) FI cars go demod or up for sale. End of the day the headache of the game isn't worth it to some compared to just buying a better car and beating on it. I don't think I could demod and still be happy afterall that is why I added power. Should I have to go back to stock I'd imagine it would last a mater of weeks before I'd have the car up for sale and be moving on. It can be very tiring. I think Dezoris said it best. It's fun but, the chicken shit little problems will make it an unenjoyable experience for some. __________________ //2013 World Rally Blue BRZ Limited FBM Turbo--gone //2018 Crystal White Pearl BRZ Ts 2.2l Harrop Supercharged

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Derka Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2014 Drives: 2015 frs Location: Spring hill florida Posts: 105 Thanks: 15 Thanked 56 Times in 26 Posts Mentioned: 3 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	I guess I can take it either way. I also do a have 300whp turbo civic. And that is where a lot of my time goes. I use my frs to drive to work and still have fun.

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BRZZZZZZZZZZ Car Nut Join Date: Dec 2013 Drives: BMW 335d, Toyota Echo RS, FRS Location: Calgary Posts: 1,557 Thanks: 368 Thanked 603 Times in 346 Posts Mentioned: 12 Post(s) Tagged: 2 Thread(s)	I wouldn't be able to stand my car daily driving if I went back to N/A. We can barely crack 170WHP N/A with our gas and altitude here and the lack of torque daily driving stock really made it very boring for me.

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Derka Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2014 Drives: 2015 frs Location: Spring hill florida Posts: 105 Thanks: 15 Thanked 56 Times in 26 Posts Mentioned: 3 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Yea good point. This doesn't have to be my daily driver as I also own a 2008 honda fit. Which is used for daily duty. But my wife likes to drive that. And I like to drive my frs because it's not a mini van (honda fit)

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D K Stig's dark passenger Join Date: Dec 2013 Drives: FR-S Location: I work abroad Posts: 724 Thanks: 60 Thanked 316 Times in 186 Posts Mentioned: 20 Post(s) Tagged: 1 Thread(s)	No fucking way!

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