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Derka 03-01-2015 08:48 PM
Would you go back to n/a?
 
This is a question that has been dancing around in my head the last week or so. I have a 2015 frs with a kraftwerks kit on it. The car runs nicely and makes good power. But I just suffered a catalytic converter failure. I know it's not the end of the world but I feel I may have sacrificed the part I loved about the car , being fun and simple.

This brings me to my question. I almost want to return it back to stock. I just feel I miss when I could just hop in the car and drive it. It always seems now that I'm looking for something wrong, checking belts, fluids, and all the stuff you don't need to do on a daily basis with a stock car.

Have you or would you be ok with a low powered car after you tasted what it was like with forced induction?

jflogerzi 03-01-2015 08:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Derka (Post 2152590)
This is a question that has been dancing around in my head the least week or so. I have a 2015 frs with a kraftwerks kit on it. The car runs nicely and makes good power. But I just suffered a catalytic converter failure. I know it's not the end of the world but I feel I may have sacrificed the part I loved about the car , being fun and simple.

This brings me to my question. I almost want to return it back to stock. I just feel I miss when I could just hop in the car and drive it. It always seems now that I'm looking for something wrong, checking belts, fluids, and all the stuff you don't need to do on a daily basis with a stock car.

Have you or would you be ok with a low powered car after you tasted what it was like with forced induction?
Thats part of the game. The kit is already installed. I would just a get a decent catless header and enjoy the car. SC's preserve the car's NA feel but you just make more power everywhere just about.

Derka 03-01-2015 09:01 PM
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Originally Posted by jflogerzi (Post 2152598)
Thats part of the game. The kit is already installed. I would just a get a decent catless header and enjoy the car. SC's preserve the car's NA feel but you just make more power everywhere just about.
You're 100% correct. And I get the whole build it better thing. The car has been sitting a week for me to decide what I'm doing with it. And the only reason I'm so confused is because the car was so damn good before the charger. As well as after.

jflogerzi 03-01-2015 09:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Derka (Post 2152609)
You're 100% correct. And I get the whole build it better thing. The car has been sitting a week for me to decide what I'm doing with it. And the only reason I'm so confused is because the car was so damn good before the charger. As well as after.
If you look around most people have had good luck with SC's. As a person who is looking at potentially adding FI, I think you will regret ripping it out so soon after a very minor setback. With just a bit more power, it really does transform the car and the way it drives. What other problems have you had? Also think of the $$$ loss in selling a used kit, the cost to remove it(if you had it installed)

Derka 03-01-2015 09:09 PM
No other "problems" but tuning the car has been a pita, and the belt rattle with the kraftwerks is annoying. I got a great deal on the charger and really won't lose much money.

jflogerzi 03-01-2015 09:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Derka (Post 2152620)
No other "problems" but tuning the car has been a pita, and the belt rattle with the kraftwerks is annoying. I got a great deal on the charger and really won't lose much money.
If tuning is a problem your using the wrong tuner. Also belt rattling? Have you called Kraftworks?

Derka 03-01-2015 09:14 PM
Forget their customer service (kraftwerks)lol. I've been using mike from moto-east. All is well just time consuming. The car made 280 whp with a small blower and no other mods. It runs great!

Look at the last page on the kraftwerks owners page for more info

Alltezza 03-01-2015 09:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Derka (Post 2152590)
This is a question that has been dancing around in my head the last week or so. I have a 2015 frs with a kraftwerks kit on it. The car runs nicely and makes good power. But I just suffered a catalytic converter failure. I know it's not the end of the world but I feel I may have sacrificed the part I loved about the car , being fun and simple.

This brings me to my question. I almost want to return it back to stock. I just feel I miss when I could just hop in the car and drive it. It always seems now that I'm looking for something wrong, checking belts, fluids, and all the stuff you don't need to do on a daily basis with a stock car.

Have you or would you be ok with a low powered car after you tasted what it was like with forced induction?
Are you trying to pass emissions ?

Derka 03-01-2015 09:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Alltezza (Post 2152653)
Are you trying to pass emissions ?

Nope. No testing or anything in florida

I'm more worried about what's next? Will I be able to drive the car from fl to nc without problems? Is the car still reliable?

It's all in my head. I've built many cars and have had issues and I'm aware on over coming them.

sam69 03-01-2015 10:02 PM
There's no way I would go back to NA as I bought the car with SC in mind and it makes a good car sooooo much more fun imo :burnrubber:

zkv476 03-01-2015 11:38 PM
Hey be glad it's not a turbo haha. I have all kinds of fun (problems) but to me that's just part of the game. Oil leaks, tuning issues, fueling, I just swapped transmissions for the third time on Friday :p. But yet I like working on my car and it's still enjoyable, that's why I keep doing it.

campy 03-02-2015 12:04 AM
I was actually thinking about this, and I decided that if I were to start unloading parts, the only aftermarket part I would keep would be my supercharger. After getting used to the extra power, I worry the car would just feel dull back at 160whp.

Just go on a local FRS/BRZ facebook group and buy someone's stock header or frontpipe for cheap, then get back to enjoying your car. Don't let a single problem make you regret building the car you want. Alternatively you could sell the kit, count your losses, and treat this as a lesson. Your choice.

whataboutbob 03-02-2015 12:12 AM
No, the boost is too fun. 40K+ on my Innovate kit and 76K+ on the car, with very little issues.

SPCorBUST 03-02-2015 01:09 AM
Already did it. 385whp on E85 on the KW SC to ??? on E85 NA. Just tracked at Buttonwillow yesterday. Any less fun? Not really. The peace of mind is definitely nice. Btw, I'm also using Mike at Moto-East as my FlexFuel tuner, as well as his kit.


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