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Old 02-23-2015, 06:17 PM   #225
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The car IS CUTE though!
I know! Right?
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Old 02-23-2015, 06:43 PM   #226
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OH...Oh...Oh...Oh....
We have a winner!!!!!!

"Sorry.. force= mass times acceleration
The heavier car has more force, so if both have equal resistance, the heavier car will fall faster.

Think of it this way.. the heavier car took more energy to pull it high in to the sky, and that energy is used to overcome the air resistance on the way back down hill.

When in doubt, try an experiment: get two toy balloons. Fill one with air and the other with water. Make them the same size so they have the same air resistance. Drop them both at the same time and see which hits the ground first.

A piece of paper and book have the same cross sectional area. Drop them side by side. CLEARLY the book falls faster.

So.. theory and experiment confirm.. Newton's laws work."


And the follow up when told he is wrong!


Sighs. You all do not want to to the math, and you do not want to do the experiments. We have air on this planet. That's how the airplane flew up to several thousand feet to drop the two cars.

Lets assume that the BRZ and the Lexus have the same shape and that both will be randomly tumbling objects so present the same aerodynamic cross section.

The mass is proportional to the weights: assume the BRZ weighs 2,800 lbs and the BRZ 3,800 pounds (it's a bit more, actually.) That puts the mass of the Lexus at about 30 percent more (conservatively) than the BRZ.

Here is a fun video that will help you understand.
1. They drop a pillow and a kitchen stove from 60 Meters.The pillow quickly reaches it's terminal velocity and the much bigger (more air resistance) kitchen stove hits the ground first.

2. Two identical balls, one made of steel. Identical aerodynamic shapes.. the heavier ball clearly hits first. You can see it. Both balls have the same retarding force do to the aerodynamics, but the steel ball's greater mass overcomes the air resistance.

3. Dropping a car and the truck tire help explain.. but we are dropping the cars from an airplane so I assume plenty of time for the cars to reach terminal velocity and that occur more quickly for the FRS as it's 30% less mass.

Before making a condescending reply, you might want to consider... we live in a complex world where things like friction, atmosphere and aerodynamics matter. I might be a stranger but I have considerable real world experience dropping things, flying things, rolling things down hill and teaching things.
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Old 02-23-2015, 07:13 PM   #227
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This thread reminded me of this lol.. [ame]https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=-Y2qPm3EW1M[/ame]
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Old 02-23-2015, 07:30 PM   #228
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The best spoiler for the FRS! *
*in a closed off simulation, with 0 real world test, with a silhouette of a kitchen table, not in production or have a producer because "secrets" and there is no market, and I refuse take criticism from an open forum in which I've joined.*
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The best spoiler for the FRS! *
*in a closed off simulation, with 0 real world test, with a silhouette of a kitchen table, not in production or have a producer because "secrets" and there is no market, and I refuse take criticism from an open forum in which I've joined.*
And asked for such comments as part of my "business" plan!
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Old 02-23-2015, 10:16 PM   #230
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OH...Oh...Oh...Oh....
We have a winner!!!!!!
Found the thread. http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=82569
And actually... The guy is not completely off on all of his conclusions, it's how he gets there that's slightly bonkers.
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Old 02-25-2015, 12:23 PM   #231
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Your dog is CUTE!!!
it's her birthday today.. 13 years old




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Old 02-25-2015, 01:30 PM   #232
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Dude, is is your thread you can't "jack" it! You are simply changing it's direction.
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"I think I'm going to have to sell my BRZ/FR-S/GT86 because I didn't look more thoroughly into the car to realize it wasn't for me and I am prone to impulse buying."
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Old 02-25-2015, 01:57 PM   #234
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"I think I'm going to have to sell my BRZ/FR-S/GT86 because I didn't look more thoroughly into the car to realize it wasn't for me and I am prone to impulse buying."
and it is Toyota/Subaru's fault for not making it the way I want it to be now in the first place! They should have made it a 400hp, turboed, 4 door sedan, with loads of room and more sound reduction because that is what I thought I was buying when I got it.
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it's her birthday today.. 13 years old
HAPPY BIRTHDAY LILLY!!!


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"I have never posted here before and show no signs of having read a single word already here but will make my very first post one with a vague, barely decipherable problem I think I may have and ask if anybody else has had it, what is it and what should I do about it."
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"I have never posted here before and show no signs of having read a single word already here but will make my very first post one with a vague, barely decipherable problem I think I may have and ask if anybody else has had it, what is it and what should I do about it."
I WILL ALSO DO SO WITH ALL CAPS!!11! AND I WILL DISMISS ANY USEFUL COMMENTS PEOPLE ACTUALLY SPENT TIME TYPING OUT AND GO AHEAD WITH MY ASSUMPTIONS THAT I'VE MADE BEFORE HAND. ALL I WANT IS REASSURANCE FROM STRANGERS ONLINE.
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"I have never posted here before and show no signs of having read a single word already here but will make my very first post one with a vague, barely decipherable problem I think I may have and ask if anybody else has had it, what is it and what should I do about it."


Kind of like:


"I read OP's comment [and no other explaining why it's wrong]. OP has a very valid point and should be taken into consideration."


"You're commenting on a post made months/years ago and we are now on page 200..."


"So..."


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