Why Innovate supercharger?

[BRZZZZZZZZZZ]

Originally Posted by xuimod

His Youtube fans really bought him a new Mustang? Really? How do you know that? Did he mention it in one of his videos?

If that's true, that's pretty fucking retarded.



What makes you say the Kraftwerks SC is not suited for DD-ing? I'm sure people can get used to the increased torque and adjust their driving to it.

I said not AS suited. It works fine, just that the positive displacement blowers are more fun for daily driving due to their torque curves compared to the centrifugal ones.

[hmong337]

That subaruwrxfan bothers me to no end. I fucking can't stand that guy. And people helped him buy a 2015 mustang?! Terrible. Abso-fucking-lutely terrible SMH in disbelief.

[DJCarbine]

Originally Posted by BRZZZZZZZZZZ

I said not AS suited. It works fine, just that the positive displacement blowers are more fun for daily driving due to their torque curves compared to the centrifugal ones.

To each their own

[Cards2323]

I keep going back and forth between the sprintex and the jrsc, I think the only way to decide it to get a ride in both and see what you like. However I cant seem to find people near Queens NY that own them...

[bfrank1972]

Originally Posted by Cards2323

I keep going back and forth between the sprintex and the jrsc, I think the only way to decide it to get a ride in both and see what you like. However I cant seem to find people near Queens NY that own them...

This, drive both if you can. There has to be both somewhere in the ny metro area!


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[evo4g63]

I have had both the Innovate and Vortech kits on my car. It is all going to be a personal preference battle that has been mentioned. I will say that having a custom wastegated Vortech like I have does spool very similar to the Innovate/ Sprintex setups and yet still has the top end pull.

[bfrank1972]

Originally Posted by evo4g63

I have had both the Innovate and Vortech kits on my car. It is all going to be a personal preference battle that has been mentioned. I will say that having a custom wastegated Vortech like I have does spool very similar to the Innovate/ Sprintex setups and yet still has the top end pull.

I've always wondered about this - how does a wastegate work on a centrifugal SC? You're actually bleeding boost at the top end?

[Foobar]

Originally Posted by bfrank1972

I've always wondered about this - how does a wastegate work on a centrifugal SC? You're actually bleeding boost at the top end?

I believe that's the gist of it - you get a smaller pulley to spin the charger faster, thereby getting boost sooner, wastegate prevents overboosting at top end.

[bfrank1972]

Originally Posted by Foobar

I believe that's the gist of it - you get a smaller pulley to spin the charger faster, thereby getting boost sooner, wastegate prevents overboosting at top end.

Interesting - I always thought this wouldn't work because the wastegate flow was restrictive... it wouldn't be able to bleed enough boost at higher rpms/air flow rates. If somebody's figured out a solution to this, I'm really surprised this isn't getting more air time, it would solve a lot of the 'issues' (if you can call them that) with centrifugal SC's.

[Chad86]

Is the Sprintex system twitchy with torque or is it just enough torque to make for a great daily driver? Looking at the 335

Love that supercharger whine!
[ame="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7GY-X11e_nM"]Sprintex 335 BRZ/FRS system -- Moto East - YouTube[/ame]

[Foobar]

Originally Posted by bfrank1972

Interesting - I always thought this wouldn't work because the wastegate flow was restrictive... it wouldn't be able to bleed enough boost at higher rpms/air flow rates. If somebody's figured out a solution to this, I'm really surprised this isn't getting more air time, it would solve a lot of the 'issues' (if you can call them that) with centrifugal SC's.

I guess it depends on your wastegate sizing. Here's an article from one of the Chevy V8 sites that talks about the application and how you can actually choose a wastegate too big that will bleed off more boost than you want.

By the way, one of our forum members who eventually sold his BRZ's had a setup that kept his boost capped at 10.5 psi with a Perrin EBCS Pro Tial wastegate and the 2.85 Vortech pulley which would normally get you to 13 psi at redline. Found his video on it:

[ame="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iZ3cIuNhTOA"]Vortech with Wastegate[/ame].

[CSG Mike]

Originally Posted by bfrank1972

I've always wondered about this - how does a wastegate work on a centrifugal SC? You're actually bleeding boost at the top end?

Yup, although, there's not really reason to do that, unless you're running E85 on a stock clutch, and the clutch can't hold the power up top...

Or you're trying to run a small pulley on bad gas *cough CA 91 *cough* and can't handle the peak boost up top...

[Chad86]

Originally Posted by Chad86

Is the Sprintex system twitchy with torque or is it just enough torque to make for a great daily driver? Looking at the 335

Love that supercharger whine!

Bump...Anyone? Or is turbo the better option?

[Fizz]

Originally Posted by Chad86

Bump...Anyone? Or is turbo the better option?

I have the sprintex 210 IC kit, and it certainly doesn't have a mountain of torque like a big V8 would. So no its not twitchy at all. The 335 on the other hand maybe....but I haven't driven that so I wouldn't know.