What would you pay? New MY2014 Base.

[Tcoat]

Originally Posted by Lonewolf

Shhhhh, remember Tcoat, he doesn't exist

Besides, its not exactly rocket science that RWD sportscars aren't selling in the winter, LOL

Except in Alaska apparently!

[PhantomX]

Originally Posted by Tcoat

Except in Alaska apparently!

Took the words right out of my mouth.

[Lonewolf]

Originally Posted by Tcoat

Except in Alaska apparently!

But Alaskans have that Big Oil check coming to them every year...they have money to burn

[PhantomX]

Originally Posted by Lonewolf

But Alaskans have that Big Oil check coming to them every year...they have money to burn

Yet we get stuck with the higher gas prices.

[Tcoat]

Originally Posted by PhantomX

Yet we get stuck with the higher gas prices.

And bread, and milk, and underwear , and just about every thing else there is! (at least when I was there 30 years ago that was the case)

[Scubaru]

OP, I would highly suggest that if you live in a region where negotiating on a Scion is allowed, then you need to order one off the truck.

Sure, it's going to be at a higher price, but there are more important things to consider.

Of course as we all know they've marked it down because it's advertised as being a MY older. You said it's one you've kept your eye on, so how long has that vehicle been on the lot?

There's a few things you should take a look at:

1. More so than not, the vehicles we have that set on our lot will develop a flat spot in the tires where they set for so long that we have discounted. If it sits for too long without being moved, that could potentially become permanent.

2. How many people have passed by that car, rubbing up against it taking a look at it? There's a good chance you could find a few scratches, or maybe even a dent depending on any type of lot damage it receives by just sitting there.

3. Even with a good discounted price, you're still buying a vehicle that's a year old. Let's say you decided to sell your 2014 with 3k miles on it. Even though you got a lower price on the 2014 upfront, a 2015 with the same amount of miles will bring a higher dollar amount, just because it's a MY newer. After you look at the resale of your car compared to one that's a MY newer, at any point in time, how much money are you actually saving?

As patient as you seem to be on waiting for the right deal/car, just order you one.

Edit: Just for shits and giggles, I did some NADA pricing for my region. Trade in for both with identical equipment, both with 3k miles.

2014 FR-S - $19,775
2013 FR-S - $17,600

[Tcoat]

Originally Posted by tehwegz

I just learned it was sold already. I can only imagine for 26k (cash) or 29k through TFS. Which were the two options they laid out on the table for me last time.


No rush, still another good month and some of winter. Going to keep an eye on lightly used ones.


Thanks for the input guys.

Shit too bad that was a deal! I wonder why they only discounted that one and not the other two though?
Maybe you can get one of them for the same deal.

[billyk]

My experience was that the dealer was more than happy to deal. I got a '14 late last year for $23,900 new with extras thrown in (spoiler, trunk mat). Got full KBB on my trade-in. Both sides of the deal was amazing - it was b/c I did a little negotiation. In my corner were two essential points: I was able to buy immediately and I was more than willing to just walk away.

Buying in the late Fall/Winter months are also in your favor. Go look - I am sure you'll find a deal to meet your needs.

[Canehda]

Geez I bought a 13 brz in September 2013 and it was nearly 35k otd... That's a steal

[PhantomX]

Originally Posted by Tcoat

Shit too bad that was a deal! I wonder why they only discounted that one and not the other two though?
Maybe you can get one of them for the same deal.

^This.

By Scion "rules," if you discount one of your 2014 FR-S, you discount all of them. Maybe not with the same exact discount, but they still get a discount. Tell them they're not following the Scion process if they say no.

[tehwegz]

Scubaru, I never took into account depreciation. I'm sort of glad I didn't get sucked into the deal now. Attractive price, but going new with all those costs may as well pick own color and get current MY. Plus the 2015's have slightly improved suspension I hear, few other minor tweaks (shark fin).


I'm not super crazy about Firestorm, either. Or most reds for that matter. I find red paint on cars fades the quickest. Some turning to pink even.


Here's two used I'm looking at:


2013, Raven(?), A/M rims + tires and stock rims + tires, 13500km, $23460 ... but they'll see what they can do. Late 2013 month production date.


http://www.kijiji.ca/v-cars-trucks/e...ationFlag=true


2014, Firestorm, 5600km, and I got quoted $24500 everything included in that price. This one is ~150km from my city.


http://www.kijiji.ca/v-cars-trucks/r...ationFlag=true

[torqdork]

@tehwegz, you've shown what I've said from the beginning: Pure Pricing is a popular myth with policy changes allowed at the discretion of regional management. That started almost a year ago, so your timing is excellent.

At this point, TMS looks the other way should dealers discount Scions. No dealer has ever had their Scion franchise terminated. OTOH, many dealers voluntarily terminated the franchise over the past two years.

Pure Pricing does sound good on paper for both customer and dealer considering the thin margins on Scion to begin with, but that became it's double-edged sword. It's hard to make a living selling small volume, low grossing cars in a marketplace accustomed to haggling over big ticket items so sales staff instead focused on the higher gross and volume bread and butter Toyotas.

Dealership management likes repeating the myth to their sales staff, though. It makes it easier for sales peeps to justify grinding customers for higher gross profits before they search the 'net and discover deals like yours.

This time of year some dealers are refusing FR-S's on allocations so chances are you could spec your car exactly as desired from port stock and without port installed options.

[Tcoat]

Originally Posted by tehwegz

Scubaru, I never took into account depreciation. I'm sort of glad I didn't get sucked into the deal now. Attractive price, but going new with all those costs may as well pick own color and get current MY. Plus the 2015's have slightly improved suspension I hear, few other minor tweaks (shark fin).


I'm not super crazy about Firestorm, either. Or most reds for that matter. I find red paint on cars fades the quickest. Some turning to pink even.


Here's two used I'm looking at:


2013, Raven(?), A/M rims + tires and stock rims + tires, 13500km, $23460 ... but they'll see what they can do. Late 2013 month production date.


http://www.kijiji.ca/v-cars-trucks/e...ationFlag=true


2014, Firestorm, 5600km, and I got quoted $24500 everything included in that price. This one is ~150km from my city.


http://www.kijiji.ca/v-cars-trucks/r...ationFlag=true

If not sure on the colour go for the other!
People may say that the colour doesn't matter but every single time you see it you will feel you "settled" for it and soon start to hate it in general and find every little fault! (Believe me I know this).

[kpamir]

Originally Posted by hmong337

You'd be a fool not to buy! That's an incredible deal!

Just looking over my invoice and it was $32400 all in w/ a discounted rust proofing package. I paid msrp at $26300 July of 2013. Hindsight is always 20/20- I feel stupid for never haggling. Could've saved a bunch or maybe was smart and got a brz for the same price ahaha. Ah well.

Yeah thats basically what I paid for mine. And thats after haggling for hours!

OP has a god damn deal on his hands if there ever was one.