Anyone using a 4-pt harness with stock seats?

[gmookher]

Post pic of cg lock?

[Miniata]

Originally Posted by gmookher

Post pic of cg lock?

http://cg-lock.com/

I have CG-Locks in my Miata and Mustang. Ran a long track day at Mid-Ohio earlier this year in the Mustang, which has much less supportive seats than the BRZ, and it held me in place very well. Never wished I had a 4-pt or 5-pt harness on track. I also have a Schroth 4-pt in my Mini, but for autocross only.

[WolfsFang]

Never EVER get a roll bar like this for a DD (http://www.autopowerindustries.com/I...g/DSC_2942.jpg). I have seen one bend in half from a rear collision. The bend ended where the front passenger was and he ended up cracking his head on it. Also never run a full cage on a DD unless you like to wear a helmet every time you drive.

[mike2100]

Originally Posted by Surok

anybody mount here for 4 point?

Way too low

[celica73]

Originally Posted by mike2100

Way too low

And, yet, if you actually read the instructions for a Schroth Rallye 4, that is EXACTLY where they tell you to mount it.

[2point0]

Originally Posted by 7thgear

if you find you're sliding around get a CGLOCK or just brace with your foot

I can't comment on the rest, but I have A CGLock and it does not work in this car. The buckle is so fat that the jaws don't go around it. Maybe with some longer screws, it's doable.

Maybe there's a newer revision, mine is probably a few years old (given to me by a friend, so no idea).

[whataboutbob]

I just got a new CG lock in the last couple of months and it came with 3 different sets of screws. Can't remember which I ended up using, but it works fine for DD and AutoX for me.

Picked it up here: http://www.theracersstore.com/

[simpleisbest]

Originally Posted by 2point0

I can't comment on the rest, but I have A CGLock and it does not work in this car. The buckle is so fat that the jaws don't go around it. Maybe with some longer screws, it's doable.

Maybe there's a newer revision, mine is probably a few years old (given to me by a friend, so no idea).

CGLock works just fine. If you can't get it working, either your using the wrong screws or your doing it wrong. Mine works just fine and its almost 3yrs old.

[2point0]

Makes sense now. Mine was given to me so there were no extra screws. Home Depot to the rescue!

[sirwin]

Originally Posted by WolfsFang

Never EVER get a roll bar like this for a DD (http://www.autopowerindustries.com/I...g/DSC_2942.jpg). I have seen one bend in half from a rear collision. The bend ended where the front passenger was and he ended up cracking his head on it. Also never run a full cage on a DD unless you like to wear a helmet every time you drive.

What is a DD? I was looking at these for my FR-S. Advice?

[WolfsFang]

Daily Driver, get a half cage if you really want a good mounting place for your harness, if you dont want a half cage then I would rather bolt the harness to the floor rather just a harness bar if it was me.

[sirwin]

Originally Posted by WolfsFang

Daily Driver, get a half cage if you really want a good mounting place for your harness, if you dont want a half cage then I would rather bolt the harness to the floor rather just a harness bar if it was me.

Thanks. Was looking at that autopower one, but removing the harness bar, or even the whole thing when not on track.

[sirwin]

see above, and PS, just google half-cage, came up empty, what do you suggest?

[rgolom]

I installed a Schroth Rallye 4 (4-point harness) into my 2013 FR-S and love it. It uses an anti-submarine system which allows your upper shoulders to rotate slightly and keeps your hips planted in the seat. I have it mounted to the front seatbelt mounting points and the appropriate rear seat lower seatbelt mounting points with all original seat belts still in place.

After a full day on the track at Thunderhill, I have no complaints. I was held in place extremely well and was able to completely relax my body and listen to the car as I drove. I have been doing track and AX events for 7 years and I'm a PCA national instructor and I definitely recommend this particular 4-point harness.

Between the length of the straps and some flex in the seat, a full harness attached to a roll bar is definitely more secure. However, I have a CG lock in my 911 and this 4-point harness is a HUGE improvement.