Trading up to RC-F - Page 5 - Toyota GR86, 86, FR-S and Subaru BRZ Forum & Owners Community

OICU812 · 11-21-2014, 09:29 PM

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Originally Posted by SkAsphalt

The market does not view ANY 2 door sports car as a worthy value. I was listening to a news thing on auto sales and a few years ago, like 2004 ish, the BMW z4 and one other 2 door sports car sold more in one year (combined) than every 2 door sports cars in 2013.

I believe this was a US study result but basically 2 cars outsold over 30 cars because no one is interested in this market anymore besides a select few. Values are dying hard.

Why do you think every automaker is now offering 4-6 CUVs?

You make a good point. Sports car people are dying off that's for sure.

hanabie · 11-21-2014, 10:09 PM

think Ill wait one used lol

torqdork · 11-21-2014, 10:16 PM

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Originally Posted by SkAsphalt

The market does not view ANY 2 door sports car as a worthy value. I was listening to a news thing on auto sales and a few years ago, like 2004 ish, the BMW z4 and one other 2 door sports car sold more in one year (combined) than every 2 door sports cars in 2013.

I believe this was a US study result but basically 2 cars outsold over 30 cars because no one is interested in this market anymore besides a select few. Values are dying hard.

Why do you think every automaker is now offering 4-6 CUVs?

You forgot the time factor. Toyota had a ho-hum initial market response to the 2000GT that for about the same price was a difficult sell against a 911.

Yet the most recent auction price was well above $1,000,000.

Not saying a mass produced car would do anywhere near the same, and the collector car market is extremely volatile, just pointing out that some 2-door sports cars have done well over time. Picking the winners when new isn't always an obvious choice.

IMO, a well preserved special edition stock twin will retain value and probably increase above initial cost...if you can wait 25 years.

funwheeldrive · 11-21-2014, 10:33 PM

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Originally Posted by torqdork

IMO, a well preserved special edition stock twin will retain value and probably increase above initial cost...if you can wait 25 years.

I'm not so sure about that. While a stock 240sx does have good resale value, they don't go for more than they cost brand new. There have already been more 86s made in 3 years than s2000s. Plus, the updated models will probably end up being more desirable if they add more power.

torqdork · 11-21-2014, 11:11 PM

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Originally Posted by funwheeldrive

I'm not so sure about that. While a stock 240sx does have good resale value, they don't go for more than they cost brand new. There have already been more 86s made in 3 years than s2000s. Plus, the updated models will probably end up being more desirable if they add more power.

Me neither, maybe wishful thinking, but it's surprising how a numbered badge can potentially add or at least help preserve resale value.

Also, those cars are just now approaching 25 y/o where they become classics. Difficult to find a clean, stock 240sx, but this would be the time to find one before or if they appreciate.

torqdork · 11-22-2014, 10:50 PM

They set the standard for ownership experience. No wonder they win all the awards.

When I brought them my IS-F alignment specs far out of factory spec that I gleaned from an auto-x forum they did it without hesitation...after I signed a waiver.

Dammit, now you have me thinking about one when I'm supposed to be downsizing.

cycleboy · 11-25-2014, 10:14 PM

Enjoy your new ride, looks like a great car.

Personally I hate, hate, hate the new Lexus pinched in grill treatments.

For the $62K or so, my vote would be C7 hands down.

tdoggy57 · 11-27-2014, 08:22 AM

Jealous!

foompla · 11-27-2014, 11:58 AM

dumb question - but have you driven one?

Defuser · 01-10-2015, 03:43 PM

Fascinating. Are there no RC-F forums?

BRZZZZZZZZZZ · 01-10-2015, 04:00 PM

Nice! Not a car I am really interested myself but congrats!

Bergen23 · 01-10-2015, 04:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Monogram

No, it's not a dumb question. I have not driven an RC F. I hope I like it.

Lol

Burrcold · 01-10-2015, 04:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Bergen23

Lol

Half the people on this forum bought a twin without ever driving one.

BRZZZZZZZZZZ · 01-10-2015, 04:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Burrcold

Half the people on this forum bought a twin without ever driving one.

This.

11-21-2014, 10:09 PM	#58
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11-27-2014, 08:22 AM	#64
tdoggy57 Senior Member Join Date: May 2012 Drives: Asphalt Scion FR-S Location: Delaware Posts: 447 Thanks: 134 Thanked 127 Times in 80 Posts Mentioned: 3 Post(s)	Jealous! __________________ 2013 Asphalt Scion FR-S Journal: http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=8778

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Defuser Remember Join Date: Nov 2014 Drives: 2015 Asphalt Location: Treasure Coast, FL Posts: 313 Thanks: 225 Thanked 365 Times in 154 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s)	Fascinating. Are there no RC-F forums? __________________ This is my 17th car. Most fun so far!

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