First Few Mods

[RobertPaulson]

Originally Posted by Koa

Your friend's experience with OFT is an odd one. What mods was he running? E85? Why so lean, when the OTS OFT tunes by and large run on the rich side?

he had a borla header and catback, and was using the appropriate OTS tune for his mods.

Originally Posted by Shiv@Openflash

Huh? This is far from the truth.

i wouldn't expect you to say anything else.

Originally Posted by Xinshadow

Years ago with less reputable tuners (think TempleofVtec) this was true, but these days not so much.

I've had a couple of friends cars running OTS tunes from cobb (they've got a pretty good reputation) blow up, and yes they were running the correct tune for their mods.

Based on what I've seen and what i know, I will not be trusting my car to an OTS tune, you are all free to do so, its not my vehicle.

[Shiv@Openflash]

Originally Posted by RobertPaulson

he had a borla header and catback, and was using the appropriate OTS tune for his mods.



i wouldn't expect you to say anything else.



I've had a couple of friends cars running OTS tunes from cobb (they've got a pretty good reputation) blow up, and yes they were running the correct tune for their mods.

Based on what I've seen and what i know, I will not be trusting my car to an OTS tune, you are all free to do so, its not my vehicle.

I cannot speak for OTS maps that were provided by another tuner but I'm quite confident in saying that our OTS maps for the OFT are as solid as they come. I have a hard time believing that your friends car would have a problem running our Stage 2 map with his mods (borla header and cat-back). Do you have any data logs to demonstrate this? I've looked at hundreds of customer data logs with similar mods and have yet to see a problem that wasn't caused by an external factor such as poor fuel quality (which really only comes to play in cars overseas where fuel quality can be questionable at times.)

[RobertPaulson]

Originally Posted by Shiv@Openflash

I cannot speak for OTS maps that were provided by another tuner but I'm quite confident in saying that our OTS maps for the OFT are as solid as they come. I have a hard time believing that your friends car would have a problem running our Stage 2 map with his mods (borla header and cat-back). Do you have any data logs to demonstrate this? I've looked at hundreds of customer data logs with similar mods and have yet to see a problem that wasn't caused by an external factor such as poor fuel quality (which really only comes to play in cars overseas where fuel quality can be questionable at times.)

I do not have his logs and fuel wasn't an issue because after flashing back to stock his issues went away and the car ran better.

[Shiv@Openflash]

Originally Posted by RobertPaulson

I do not have his logs and fuel wasn't an issue because after flashing back to stock his issues went away and the car ran better.

Did he ever send his logs to me? Or notify me of the situation? Or did he use another device (non-OFT) to load our OTS map?

[Bergen23]

Sorry to thread jack here, but...

Right now I have an AEM intake and a Spec-D exhaust. Would it be worth it for me to invest in the OFT? I have literally no idea when it comes to tunes and I'm too lazy to search because I'm using my phone and not my laptop.

[Xinshadow]

Originally Posted by Bergen23

Sorry to thread jack here, but...

Right now I have an AEM intake and a Spec-D exhaust. Would it be worth it for me to invest in the OFT? I have literally no idea when it comes to tunes and I'm too lazy to search because I'm using my phone and not my laptop.

I think so. Biggest gains are with a proper header and stage 2 tune, but even a stage 1 OTS tune makes a very noticeable difference on a mostly stock car. I didn't dyno after doing the stage 1 so I can't give you a number but my guess is a 10hp bump. You'll feel it and hear it in the powerband around 4,000RPM.

[Bergen23]

Originally Posted by Xinshadow

I think so. Biggest gains are with a proper header and stage 2 tune, but even a stage 1 OTS tune makes a very noticeable difference on a mostly stock car. I didn't dyno after doing the stage 1 so I can't give you a number but my guess is a 10hp bump. You'll feel it and hear it in the powerband around 4,000RPM.

Cheers. Been humming and hawing about it. I'll probably end up going with the package deal for the tablet and headers. Providing the package comes with the option of catted headers, which I can't remember off the top of my head.

[speeddemon]

Originally Posted by Bergen23

Cheers. Been humming and hawing about it. I'll probably end up going with the package deal for the tablet and headers. Providing the package comes with the option of catted headers, which I can't remember off the top of my head.

I wasn't aware that you could get an OFT and header packaget? Maybe it's just ignorance on my part but are there deals out there like this where you can get a better price plus an tune that is specific to the brand of header? <<That would be ideal!

[Xinshadow]

Originally Posted by speeddemon

I wasn't aware that you could get an OFT and header packaget? Maybe it's just ignorance on my part but are there deals out there like this where you can get a better price plus an tune that is specific to the brand of header? <<That would be ideal!

http://www.openflashtablet.com/products/OFH/index.html

Openflash only does it for their own UEL header specifically, but the package deal is awesome at around $1,000, considering there are some EL headers that cost that much alone.

If you want a UEL, I see no reason why you wouldn't go with theirs, quality and fitment are great and the OFT/H package is one of the few meaningful things you can do to squeeze more power out of the engine for less than a couple grand.

[2much]

Originally Posted by Xinshadow

http://www.openflashtablet.com/products/OFH/index.html

Openflash only does it for their own UEL header specifically, but the package deal is awesome at around $1,000, considering there are some EL headers that cost that much alone.

If you want a UEL, I see no reason why you wouldn't go with theirs, quality and fitment are great and the OFT/H package is one of the few meaningful things you can do to squeeze more power out of the engine for less than a couple grand.

There are two reasons why you might not want OFH
1. It does not have a catalytic converter
2. Some prefer the performance characteristics of equal length headers

If losing one of two cats is not a concern for you, and you want the performance characteristics of a UEL header, OFH is a fine buy. The piece is beautiful and very well made.

edit-
generally, UEL headers = more of a boost in lower range power, EL headers = more power in higher ranges

[speeddemon]

Originally Posted by Xinshadow

http://www.openflashtablet.com/products/OFH/index.html

Openflash only does it for their own UEL header specifically, but the package deal is awesome at around $1,000, considering there are some EL headers that cost that much alone.

If you want a UEL, I see no reason why you wouldn't go with theirs, quality and fitment are great and the OFT/H package is one of the few meaningful things you can do to squeeze more power out of the engine for less than a couple grand.

Wow, that is a good deal! With this being said, does anyone have any soundbites of the Openflash stage 2 tune with the OFH with a bone stock exhaust? I would be real curious to see how this combo sounds!

[GotBRZ1691]

Originally Posted by speeddemon

First post on the forum! I don't even have my FRS yet, waiting on my current car to run out of life (so I'm driving it a little harder than I should admittedly) but I am already anxious to start my mod projects. I want to have some fun DIY bolt on stuff and feel a noticable difference in power to feel as if something was accomplished but do not want to spend a forture (ie going FI).

I have read alot on this forum and it seems like for the bang for your buck, I should start with headers; most likely Tomei. For some increased sound and flow I was thinking about just doing the axle back. At the same time as the headers I would go with a OFT stage 2 tune and a drop in filter probably HKS.

How does this plan of action sound to the guys out there who have been there done that?

If you are going the OFT route, Why not get the OFH? My thoughts are since they are developed by the same company, the base maps will most likely be based on their header. Plus they can be shipped together and arrive together so your not waiting for one or the other.

Package deal for ~$1,000 is great bang for buck.

Spot on with the drop in filter, maybe grab an inlet tube to pair with it. Lightweight pulleys are an option but I'd save the money for other parts to start. If your planning on running stage two, I'd get a cat-back which will replace the mid pipe, so later down the road you only have to replace the front pipe and over pipe to have a complete exhaust.

You may find that you want stickier tires once tuned and running the headers, especially if your running the E85 tune. Stock tires are fine, and this is not necessarily needed right away. My tires are at 22,000 miles and there is a noticeable decrease in their performance, so once through the winter months I will be getting new sneakers.

Depending on how much you drive, you may want to invest some money in the interior of the car. I regularly drive 6 to 8hr drives every Friday and Sunday (San Fran to Santa Barbara) and I have sound matted my car to help with road noise. I have Knee pads and a center console coming. Shift knob for comfort and bling.

Should get you started haha

[2much]

Originally Posted by speeddemon

Wow, that is a good deal! With this being said, does anyone have any soundbites of the Openflash stage 2 tune with the OFH with a bone stock exhaust? I would be real curious to see how this combo sounds!

I will be able to have this exactly very soon

[speeddemon]

Originally Posted by 2much

I will be able to have this exactly very soon

How's that install coming? Do you have a video clip of this combination? I'm real curious as to what the sound is like.