Why Supercharger??

[Dammod]

Originally Posted by Ryan86

What do you believe is the best option?

I believe the best option would be to tune the stock ECU with whatever software you prefer as there is simply no need for a piggyback system on our advanced 32bit ECU's.

[Ryan86]

Originally Posted by Dammod

I believe the best option would be to tune the stock ECU with whatever software you prefer as there is simply no need for a piggyback system on our advanced 32bit ECU's.

Who are the various companies offering these services in SA
Tuning
Superchargers
Turbo
Full install with warranties

[WesleyG]

the bolt on nature of a supercharger, without having to worry about the exhuast ect makes it a more viable option.

Also having driven a turbo and a a supercharged car ( not 86's), I prefer the power delivery of the supercharger, especially for the 86 and the way I drive, much more predictable and linear.

The issue with lag. lag metioned above is not really an issue with the FA20, its high comp and careful tuning of the AVCS and correct turbo selection can result in 0 lag

[Dammod]

Originally Posted by Ryan86

Who are the various companies offering these services in SA
Tuning
Superchargers
Turbo
Full install with warranties

I wasn't referring to any specific companies, just answering your question on what I think the best/ideal would be.

But to answer this, the honest answer is Phoenix Performance. I simply don't know of any other companies offering local tuning on the stock ECU with all of the above with all the experience they have with boxer engines and rebuilds.

[sav]

Originally Posted by Dammod

I wasn't referring to any specific companies, just answering your question on what I think the best/ideal would be.

But to answer this, the honest answer is Phoenix Performance. I simply don't know of any other companies offering local tuning on the stock ECU with all of the above with all the experience they have with boxer engines and rebuilds.

Auto Sound Engineering/Jan Steyn in Pretoria does Ecutec tuning on the 86 and also does turbo installations. Not sure what Steve Clark is using?

[Dammod]

Originally Posted by sav

Auto Sound Engineering/Jan Steyn in Pretoria does Ecutec tuning on the 86 and also does turbo installations. Not sure what Steve Clark is using?

I know a few companies using ECUtek but a lot of them simply flashing maps from other international companies.
Will be nice to hear them tuning locally...if so

[sav]

Originally Posted by Dammod

I know a few companies using ECUtek but a lot of them simply flashing maps from other international companies.
Will be nice to hear them tuning locally...if so

Yep but I'm pretty sure ASE is tuning them locally - there is pretty much nothing off the shelf about their turbo system. They've done a turbo(Garret 3071 I think) BRZ for Subaru Centurion which was for sale a while ago, I should have made a plan to go drive it.

[Dammod]

Originally Posted by sav

Yep but I'm pretty sure ASE is tuning them locally - there is pretty much nothing off the shelf about their turbo system. They've done a turbo(Garret 3071 I think) BRZ for Subaru Centurion which was for sale a while ago, I should have made a plan to go drive it.

That's awesome to hear, to them.

[sav]

Here you go:


Just a pity the support for Sprintex in SA and Australia sucks.

[Fish Eagle]

RGM Vortech (mine) boosts 0.44 bar @ Nelspruit altitude.
My understanding is that the Sprintex boosts 0.6 to 0.8 bar depending on pulley, so greater output would be expected.

IMO the equation is simple:
+boost = +power -reliability, and you decide what level of risk you're prepared to take.

After having been boosted @ 0.44 for over a year, 25000+kms, and almost 500 racetrack laps, do I want more?
Nope, I'm very happy as is.
For minimal cost I could fit a smaller pulley, but I've decided not to do that.

[sav]

Pretty much but it would also depend on the supercharger's efficiency.

A big turbo @ 1 bar is pumping a lot more air than a small turbo @ 1 bar. Even so it's not only about the power & torque output - the Sprintex one is making a LOT more torque low down.

Either way, if I was going the SC route it would also be RGM/Vortech for the simple reason that RGM know what they're doing, they've got a proven track record and you know that they'll be there to help if something does go wrong. With Sprintex you're on your own, Vaseline not included.

[Fish Eagle]

Originally Posted by sav

A big turbo @ 1 bar is pumping a lot more air than a small turbo @ 1 bar. Even so it's not only about the power & torque output - the Sprintex one is making a LOT more torque low down.

Of course, it's all to do with the hot-and-cold sliding doors on the gazanaxoid.

[sav]

Yep, but it's all good as long as you re-program the flux capacitor's flange.

[Sporran]

Now I'm beginning to worry because I actually understand what you two are talking about!