Help selecting Coilovers, for my needs :)

[Captain Snooze]

Originally Posted by cjd

Intended drop (12-20cm)

It will be below the surface of the road.

[Mikeez]

KW V3 are 2lbs heavier than OEM, that's about 8lbs increase... They are also track limited and for 2300, they are asking a lot.
I hope I don't disrespect anyone. I am starting to disregard KW.


I am looking at the other suggestion, you guys provided me. Thanks

[Mikeez]

Ohlins are expensive, but you get what you pay for. Hence, Ohlins uses the same technology as the OEM struts, which I believe will be the best for my roads. Does anyone agree/disagree?


I was suggest RCE Tarmac as well, but there is not much information about it (weight, strut design).


Other coilover, don't have the capability of adjusting the rebound. You can just adjust the damping.

[jvincent]

From everything you have said, the RS*R Sport-i still sound like the best bet for you.

I took my car to the track this summer with only camber bolts as an adjustment and believe me when I tell you the stock suspension, even with stock tires will allow you to push the car MUCH harder than you ever should on public roads. After learning the car on the stock tires I upgraded to some higher performance tires and wheels and the car is noticeably quicker. My lap times dropped significantly just with the tire swap.

The Sport-i have a firmer spring rate, so they should be better at the track, and equally importantly the valving is apparently very well matched, so it should also be good as a DD. I have been looking at these as my next suspension upgrade. I'll either do it this summer or next.

[Captain Snooze]

Originally Posted by Mikeez

KW V3 are 2lbs heavier than OEM, that's about 8lbs increase [1]... They are also track limited [2] and for 2300, they are asking a lot. [3]
I hope I don't disrespect anyone. I am starting to disregard KW.

[1] This is negligible in the grand scheme of things.
[2] Wait a sec, are you introducing track days into the equation?
[3] Everything is "limited". Would you have fun on track with these? Yes. Are they the best damper for track work? No. $2300 is not a lot for what you get.

Say this 3 times before going to sleep: "Everything's a compromise".

[Captain Snooze]

Originally Posted by jvincent

believe me when I tell you the stock suspension, even with stock tires will allow you to push the car MUCH harder than you ever should on public roads.

This.

[cjd]

Originally Posted by Captain Snooze

It will be below the surface of the road.

DERP! /10, I meant mm. hah. That would be funny though, I swear some of the cars I see...

I'll also agree, based purely on what I've read elsewhere, that the RS*R Sports-i sound like they may be a good match IF they can manage the drop requested.

Not sure any of these packages let you raise to stock height for the winter, certainly not easily. That could get expensive FAST. That said, good snow tires on this already low car, I'm not sure the drop suggested will impose any significant additional difficulty handling conditions.

C

[Mikeez]

Originally Posted by jvincent

From everything you have said, the RS*R Sport-i still sound like the best bet for you.

I took my car to the track this summer with only camber bolts as an adjustment and believe me when I tell you the stock suspension, even with stock tires will allow you to push the car MUCH harder than you ever should on public roads. After learning the car on the stock tires I upgraded to some higher performance tires and wheels and the car is noticeably quicker. My lap times dropped significantly just with the tire swap.

The Sport-i have a firmer spring rate, so they should be better at the track, and equally importantly the valving is apparently very well matched, so it should also be good as a DD. I have been looking at these as my next suspension upgrade. I'll either do it this summer or next.

You live close by Montreal, you should have the same winter as mine. You plan on using the car during winter season? Let me know how it goes, maybe we can do a group buy

Originally Posted by cjd

DERP! /10, I meant mm. hah. That would be funny though, I swear some of the cars I see...

I'll also agree, based purely on what I've read elsewhere, that the RS*R Sports-i sound like they may be a good match IF they can manage the drop requested.

Not sure any of these packages let you raise to stock height for the winter, certainly not easily. That could get expensive FAST. That said, good snow tires on this already low car, I'm not sure the drop suggested will impose any significant additional difficulty handling conditions.

C

Yes, you are right... I don't know how high the RSR Sport-I can go... How high can the kw v3 go?


worst case I will change the suspension every seasons

[jvincent]

I will be driving mine in the winter. When I get coilovers I am only planning on. 1/2 inch drop and I'll leave it that way all year.

[Mikeez]

I am thinking of staggered now... Lol, 8.5 and 9.5... Major drawback... Slight Understeer?

[jvincent]

You can't rotate your tires if they are staggered unless they are omni-directional.

[cjd]

Originally Posted by Mikeez

I am thinking of staggered now... Lol, 8.5 and 9.5... Major drawback... Slight Understeer?

I think more than a little.

[Captain Snooze]

Originally Posted by Foobar

The biggest con: You can't rotate your tires.
Some other things to consider: Depending on your suspension mods and amount of stagger, you change the handling characteristics of the car. Since you are just DD'ing it, this really won't be an issue for you. If you were aggressively driving it for competition, tracking, autox, etc, a staggered set up would normally reduce oversteer. Also, staggered introduces additional expense - the wider rim + wider tire will cost you a few more bucks.

Originally Posted by Foobar

If you are planning on tracking the car seriously, then like chutrain said above, there are things you'll end up doing to get the balance you desire regardless of tire configuration. As soon as you do suspension and tire changes that aren't stock, you're already changing the balance of the car so you really need to consider the holistic effect of everything you're doing against the application that you're putting it up against.

If you're just concerned with street driving, then you really won't see much difference in either setup (all else being equal with regard to tire selection, suspension, power output, etc). For tracking, you'll have a lot to consider - width of rears to handle the power output, width of fronts for steering, width of both for cornering, amount of power available to induce desired oversteer, what effects, if any, your suspension configuration has added, for example.

Bottom line - what are your priorities and what else were you planning on doing to the car? That will determine the path you should consider.

My bold.

[Mikeez]

Originally Posted by Captain Snooze

My bold.
http://www.ft86club.com/forums/searc...=7896055&pp=30

You mean staggered would increase understeer, but when you use it on the track, autox, etc it will reduce understeer?