MSN.com hating on the twins! - Page 3 - Toyota GR86, 86, FR-S and Subaru BRZ Forum & Owners Community

Chad11491 · 12-04-2014, 08:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DarkSunrise

0-60 in the low/mid 6's is pretty slow these days. But to be fair, they should have also mentioned some other surprisingly slow cars:

- Miata
- BMW 220i
- MB CLA250
- Mini Cooper S
- Honda Civic SI

etc.

I don't think anyone would be surprised a civic is slow. 99.9% of the population sees them as economy box people movers.

billyk · 12-04-2014, 09:57 PM

Look fast, but really aren't? Don't agree.

Are not as fast as they look? Maybe, but only b/c it looks like it's going 200mph standing still. I don't mind this.

Fact is, it's plenty fast and it'll do what the "real fast" cars can't do.
Go around corners.
Really fast.

abraxis · 12-04-2014, 10:20 PM

MSN is still around? Who knew.

themadscientist · 12-04-2014, 11:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tahdizzle

Mini is probaby a pretty good in the twisties too.

I haven't driven a new mini coupe or a new mazda 6 to give my 2 cents on them, but I can't imagine a mazda 6 being a better than a mini in that department.

My wife has a Mini. The auto box is crap if you aren't banging the shifts manually, but it's quite tossable. I'd say a manual Mini would have a decent shot at your lunch money in a stock FRS.

kevman_101 · 12-05-2014, 10:57 AM

I also don`t see it as hating. They aren`t fast. They are fun and agile yes, but when a stock mini-van full of kids with hockey equipement an watching movies on the on board DVD player can win your pink slip, it`s not a fast car. And I don`t regret for a second buying it

As for the segment comments. They aren`t talking about the 6 against that list, they are talking about the 6 in the mid-size family sedan. They are compared to Altimas, and Camrys. Not the FRS, or Civics or Imprezas. It doesn`t look to me like MSN lost their mind.

tahdizzle · 12-05-2014, 12:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kevman_101

I also don`t see it as hating. They aren`t fast. They are fun and agile yes, but when a stock mini-van full of kids with hockey equipement an watching movies on the on board DVD player can win your pink slip, it`s not a fast car. And I don`t regret for a second buying it

As for the segment comments. They aren`t talking about the 6 against that list, they are talking about the 6 in the mid-size family sedan. They are compared to Altimas, and Camrys. Not the FRS, or Civics or Imprezas. It doesn`t look to me like MSN lost their mind.

The Subaru Legacy is in that line-up also the kia optima, honda accord,.....

Like i Said, MSN has lost their mind.

Defuser · 12-05-2014, 12:06 PM

Yeah more than 6 cars in the mid-sized econobox bracket.

jdd · 12-05-2014, 12:18 PM

I just see it as Merica supporting Merican products because they are losing so much market share here in North America. If you take the rednecks of Merica out of the mix, I don't think anybody WANTS to drive Merican automobiles.

Some people just prefer a horribly inefficient V8 to a properly tuned flat 4. Why? 'cause Merica!

8R6 · 12-05-2014, 12:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jdd

I just see it as Merica supporting Merican products because they are losing so much market share here in North America. If you take the rednecks of Merica out of the mix, I don't think anybody WANTS to drive Merican automobiles.

Some people just prefer a horribly inefficient V8 to a properly tuned flat 4. Why? 'cause Merica!

wat

jeffchap · 12-05-2014, 01:04 PM

The twins were still the fastest car in that entire list.

Kimsey47 · 12-05-2014, 01:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by abraxis

MSN is still around? Who knew.

Probably just saw the most web traffic in years with all of us looking to at this article...

Jond63 · 12-05-2014, 02:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tahdizzle

The Subaru Legacy is in that line-up also the kia optima, honda accord,.....

Like i Said, MSN has lost their mind.

I'd be willing to bet that in an autocross between all those sedans , the Mazda6 would win. Assuming the same competent driver of course.

That Zoom-Zoom ain't no joke, haha!

kevman_101 · 12-05-2014, 04:31 PM

You think a Kia Optima handles better then a Mazda 6? LOL

AyJay · 12-05-2014, 04:49 PM

There is much more to being fast than just acceleration times... unfortunately Average Joe Public is not sophisticated enough to understand this. 95% of drivers on the road do not have the skill set or even the understanding of how to appreciate a car that doesn't rely on a v8 for speed.

12-05-2014, 12:06 PM	#35
Defuser Remember Join Date: Nov 2014 Drives: 2015 Asphalt Location: Treasure Coast, FL Posts: 313 Thanks: 225 Thanked 365 Times in 154 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Yeah more than 6 cars in the mid-sized econobox bracket. __________________ This is my 17th car. Most fun so far!

12-05-2014, 12:18 PM	#36
jdd Member Join Date: Jul 2014 Drives: 2015 FR-S (6MT) Location: Vancouver, BC. not Surrey or Richmond or Burnaby! Posts: 46 Thanks: 21 Thanked 18 Times in 12 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	I just see it as Merica supporting Merican products because they are losing so much market share here in North America. If you take the rednecks of Merica out of the mix, I don't think anybody WANTS to drive Merican automobiles. Some people just prefer a horribly inefficient V8 to a properly tuned flat 4. Why? 'cause Merica! __________________

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kevman_101 Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2013 Drives: 2013 Scion FRS Location: Bathurst New-Brunswick Posts: 222 Thanks: 3 Thanked 101 Times in 61 Posts Mentioned: 2 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	I also don`t see it as hating. They aren`t fast. They are fun and agile yes, but when a stock mini-van full of kids with hockey equipement an watching movies on the on board DVD player can win your pink slip, it`s not a fast car. And I don`t regret for a second buying it As for the segment comments. They aren`t talking about the 6 against that list, they are talking about the 6 in the mid-size family sedan. They are compared to Altimas, and Camrys. Not the FRS, or Civics or Imprezas. It doesn`t look to me like MSN lost their mind.

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AyJay Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2013 Drives: 22 GR86, 13 FR-S, AP2 S2000 Location: Sac, NorCal Posts: 407 Thanks: 208 Thanked 220 Times in 118 Posts Mentioned: 14 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	There is much more to being fast than just acceleration times... unfortunately Average Joe Public is not sophisticated enough to understand this. 95% of drivers on the road do not have the skill set or even the understanding of how to appreciate a car that doesn't rely on a v8 for speed.

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