Toyota FT-86 transmission is this it?

[TeemuT]

The concept car has a 6 speed shift knob on it.. That tranny has the starter motor so straight up on top of it that I doubt that could have any inline engine on it, the block would need to have a big hole for the starter. Anyways, I'm hoping for a proper paddle gearbox, though LF-A makes me worry about it been rubbish if made by Toyota

[nate89]

Shift with a clutch or not at all

(I know that some dual clutch autos are faster than manuals, that's not the point)

and now to await the comeback lol

[Siriusly.Andrew]

Originally Posted by nate89

I know that most dual clutch autos are faster than manuals

Fixed :P

Originally Posted by TeemuT

Anyways, I'm hoping for a proper paddle gearbox, though LF-A makes me worry about it been rubbish if made by Toyota

Quote your source please, I'm very into this car and I want to read all about it. Problems included. I haven't been "recent" in the news of the car, but last time I checked the gearbox was too awesome for its own good. (from my perspective lol)

[TeemuT]

Originally Posted by Siriusly.Andrew

Quote your source please

No external sources on that one, I've driven an LF-A and the gearbox seemed to think it knew what gears to use better than I did. Meaning it sometimes refused to change gears apparently because it wasn't wise considering power output on different revs. If I wanted the transmission to use the best gear possible considering revs I'd just take a normal automatic gearbox with a kick-down function.. BMW has got some very good gearboxes on the M-series cars, I wish Toyota would just buy a similar gearbox from getrag..

Though if it even comes with a paddle gear option I'm happy to buy a manual one if it isn't any good I haven't really even considered buying any new car (daily drivers are different in my mind, and by new I mean newer than the original hachi roku) and as this gets me so excited that I must have one, I wan't to get something more out of the 30 years automotive development than just design..

[Snaps]

^ You've driven an LFA have you? I'm sure you've got pics to prove that? Were you driving it in sport mode? Because in sport mode, the gear changes are COMPLETELY up to the driver, you could potentially bouce the engine off the rev limiter for half a minute and nothing else would happen.

'though LF-A makes me worry about it been rubbish if made by Toyota'

Why do you say that? The LFA's single clutch g/box is THE FASTEST current single-clutch automated gearbox in a production car. I don't see what's so bad about that.

[TeemuT]

Originally Posted by Snaps

^ You've driven an LFA have you? I'm sure you've got pics to prove that? Were you driving it in sport mode? Why do you say that? The LFA's single clutch g/box is THE FASTEST current single-clutch automated gearbox in a production car. I don't see what's so bad about that.

Actually you're right, I haven't.. I had to read it through a few times before realising I was thinking about the IS-F and writing down LF-A, sorry, my bad. And the test drive was a bit short but during that time my co-pilot didn't find such a mode that would have allowed such total control of gear changes. Hadn't read about the change-time comparisons that much before because the BMW boxes are "guick-enough" for me, though when buying a car for myself I would wan't the guicker one. Well I guess we'll see what they come up with in about a year..

[Matador]

Originally Posted by TeemuT

The concept car has a 6 speed shift knob on it.. That tranny has the starter motor so straight up on top of it that I doubt that could have any inline engine on it, the block would need to have a big hole for the starter. Anyways, I'm hoping for a proper paddle gearbox, though LF-A makes me worry about it been rubbish if made by Toyota

The LFA's gearbox is pretty damn good, just not as good as a dual clutch. Far better that ferrari's or lamborghini's sequential transmission in fact.

[Matador]

Originally Posted by TeemuT

Actually you're right, I haven't.. I had to read it through a few times before realising I was thinking about the IS-F and writing down LF-A, sorry, my bad. And the test drive was a bit short but during that time my co-pilot didn't find such a mode that would have allowed such total control of gear changes. Hadn't read about the change-time comparisons that much before because the BMW boxes are "guick-enough" for me, though when buying a car for myself I would wan't the guicker one. Well I guess we'll see what they come up with in about a year..

Also bullshit, because the IS F won't change until you tell it to. It's also an automatic and a very good one for what it is.

[BoostJunkie]

So other words from that guy yet?

[TeemuT]

Originally Posted by MatadorRacing_F1

Also bullshit, because the IS F won't change until you tell it to.

IF you would have read my comment fully, you would have noticed I never claimed it would, I only said it didn't change everytime I wanted it to. Sorry about the offtopic again, but I thought this forum was about following the development and speculating about the great car that's coming. No need to start dissing someone elses opinions

Won't write no more offtopic, I promise..

[Siriusly.Andrew]

we honestly don't care *too* much about on / off topic conversations. We argue for fun on here while we wait for something else to gossip about. Try not to take it personally, there are a few of us who orgasm at the thought of the LF-A (changing pants.. brb). So we'll defend it :P

I'm not saying its free of faults, but considering what it does and how it does it... (changing pants again)

[Snaps]

Originally Posted by Siriusly.Andrew

we honestly don't care *too* much about on / off topic conversations. We argue for fun on here while we wait for something else to gossip about.

So true.

I'm not sure if the IS-F has one of those modes... Was it by any chance happening when you were downshifting? Were you maybe downshifting a little too early, which would make the car go over the redline? (Which the ECU would not let you do), or was it just in normal driving conditions, far below the redline?

[Matador]

Originally Posted by Snaps

So true.

I'm not sure if the IS-F has one of those modes... Was it by any chance happening when you were downshifting? Were you maybe downshifting a little too early, which would make the car go over the redline? (Which the ECU would not let you do), or was it just in normal driving conditions, far below the redline?

That is the only thing the IS F transmission won't do. It upshifts exactly when you tell it to, and in fact, has shift times comparable to the LFA and Ferrari's pre-DCT gearboxes.

[WingsofWar]

LF-A also make burritos when you want it too...they taste so god damn delicious