Toyota FT-86 transmission is this it? - Toyota GR86, 86, FR-S and Subaru BRZ Forum & Owners Community

4agze · 09-30-2010, 05:37 PM

I've been holding this pic for few days now, i wanted to authenticate before posting if its real or BS but cant find anything on it so I'll post maybe someone can shine a truth on it. Got it from a person in facebook who send me a msg after giving a like vote on my ae86, then he send me a PM telling me that I have a nice trueno & , I say thanks and asked him if he has one also? He replied no in his country its rare but his planning to get the FT86 when it goes on sale, he asked me if I'm planning to get the FT86? I replied yes cant wait, he replied I worked on the FT86 well just the drivetrain. At this point i was calling BS so he send me pics of a transmission that has a FT86 writen on it, I say any person can write a FT86 on a transmission so i started looking for a similar look or type of a tranny but came short. So if anyone can authenticate this, but im about to think its real.

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Dark · 09-30-2010, 06:45 PM

I have no idea about this tranny, but Aisin Ai means the tranny is MT. Aisin Ai is probably working with Toyota R&D in Japan. I also wonder if anyone can identify this transmission. Anyway, thank 4agze.

zbirdman777 · 09-30-2010, 09:37 PM

They need to revive "Unsolved Mysteries" for this thread. Wow! That's very coincidental if it's true.

4agze · 09-30-2010, 10:46 PM

My last PM to him was can you tell me the gear ration w/ the final gear thats what i really care about, i even invited him to join the forum maybe share what he knows.

zbirdman777 · 10-01-2010, 01:20 PM

If what he said was true I doubt he'll enlighten us because I'm sure it would result in him losing his job. He's probably done enough to lose it anyway with that picture.

Dark · 10-01-2010, 04:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zbirdman777

If what he said was true I doubt he'll enlighten us because I'm sure it would result in him losing his job. He's probably done enough to lose it anyway with that picture.

Maybe He was convinced to do that by Toyota. Who knows? Maybe it's Toyota's strategy to keep fan interested in the car.

Allch Chcar · 10-05-2010, 05:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dark

Maybe He was convinced to do that by Toyota. Who knows? Maybe it's Toyota's strategy to keep fan interested in the car.

I'm guessing more that someone recognized they were working on a cool new car and wanting to share it

.

If you want some guesses on the gear ratios, probably close to S2k specs. A tall first gear of 3.1xx(like a 5spd) with close ratios all the way to 6th with .8xx. The Mazda variants of the Aisin AZ6 have 3.76-3.84 first gears.
Unless he worked specifically on the gearing he might not know the ratios for the transmission or the final axle gearing. Just a thought but I wouldn't want to see him get fired for sharing info.
And

Matador · 10-06-2010, 10:11 AM

I'm skeptic, I don't buy it, but if it really is, Kudos to both of you and it makes me happy that the FT-86 is progressing and likely closer than we think.

nate89 · 10-08-2010, 01:23 AM

You can at least tell its RWD only. I'm not a subaru guy, so if someone could try to take a better look at the bell housing and see if its somewhat close to the pattern for a boxer engine, then well have RWD + boxer =

hehe

jyoo · 10-08-2010, 03:25 AM

that project number tag looks like its withering away? i would assume it would still be sticking on there nicely

[es vi: eks] · 10-08-2010, 03:33 AM

It will have the new Gen boxer motor so bell housing mite be different? Mind you it maybe the same as the EZ36 and diesel.
They are slowly changing stuff so all the gear boxes etc that used to fit into all of the EJ stuff wont be able to fit.
Like the New 6 speed that is based on the 5speed fitted in the new shape legacys.
They have changed the mounts. Will not fit into the older models.
The Impreza STI still runs the Bullet proof 6 Speed in it that can still be fitted to different models.

Matador · 10-08-2010, 11:43 AM

the Bell housing is likely to be slightly different. It has the shape similar to the top of Subaru's bell housings, but the bottom is missing the awd bits that are right at the front of the tranny.

Com to think about it, the output in the rear seems to be high up relative to the top of the bell housing, like it would be for an engine that is mounted very low in the chassis.

jay4prez · 10-08-2010, 01:55 PM

RWD Only = Check
looks like its made for low mounted engine = check

Aisin Manual Trans = CHECK

hmm, I'm almost sold, but I like where this is going so far, now only if we could get some pictures of our beloved's underbody for comparison

cloud9 · 10-09-2010, 01:28 AM

so do we know its going to be a 6 speed yet? Not that i would assume otherwise but i just watched a "grand turismo" video and he got to 6th and it was the 1st ive seen or heard anything.

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09-30-2010, 06:45 PM	#2
Dark Elite Padawan Join Date: Mar 2010 Drives: '15 WRX, 15 GLA250, and 2 feet Location: Shoreline, WA Posts: 3,498 Thanks: 197 Thanked 250 Times in 159 Posts Mentioned: 9 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	I have no idea about this tranny, but Aisin Ai means the tranny is MT. Aisin Ai is probably working with Toyota R&D in Japan. I also wonder if anyone can identify this transmission. Anyway, thank 4agze.

09-30-2010, 09:37 PM	#3
zbirdman777 86 Addict Join Date: Oct 2009 Drives: 2009 Scion tC Location: Lubbock, TX Posts: 89 Thanks: 0 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	They need to revive "Unsolved Mysteries" for this thread. Wow! That's very coincidental if it's true.

10-01-2010, 01:20 PM	#5
zbirdman777 86 Addict Join Date: Oct 2009 Drives: 2009 Scion tC Location: Lubbock, TX Posts: 89 Thanks: 0 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	If what he said was true I doubt he'll enlighten us because I'm sure it would result in him losing his job. He's probably done enough to lose it anyway with that picture.

10-06-2010, 10:11 AM	#8
Matador hashiryu Join Date: Nov 2009 Drives: Mk4 Supra Location: Probably mucking around in an engine bay Posts: 2,567 Thanks: 18 Thanked 37 Times in 20 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	I'm skeptic, I don't buy it, but if it really is, Kudos to both of you and it makes me happy that the FT-86 is progressing and likely closer than we think.

10-08-2010, 01:23 AM	#9
nate89 Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Drives: MR2 Location: USA!!! Posts: 256 Thanks: 1 Thanked 6 Times in 6 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	You can at least tell its RWD only. I'm not a subaru guy, so if someone could try to take a better look at the bell housing and see if its somewhat close to the pattern for a boxer engine, then well have RWD + boxer = hehe

10-08-2010, 03:25 AM	#10
jyoo Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Drives: 350z Location: cerritos ca Posts: 36 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	that project number tag looks like its withering away? i would assume it would still be sticking on there nicely

10-08-2010, 03:33 AM	#11
[es vi: eks] Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Drives: Subaru Legacy Location: NZ, Christchurch, The Shakey Isles Posts: 322 Thanks: 41 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	It will have the new Gen boxer motor so bell housing mite be different? Mind you it maybe the same as the EZ36 and diesel. They are slowly changing stuff so all the gear boxes etc that used to fit into all of the EJ stuff wont be able to fit. Like the New 6 speed that is based on the 5speed fitted in the new shape legacys. They have changed the mounts. Will not fit into the older models. The Impreza STI still runs the Bullet proof 6 Speed in it that can still be fitted to different models.

10-08-2010, 11:43 AM	#12
Matador hashiryu Join Date: Nov 2009 Drives: Mk4 Supra Location: Probably mucking around in an engine bay Posts: 2,567 Thanks: 18 Thanked 37 Times in 20 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	the Bell housing is likely to be slightly different. It has the shape similar to the top of Subaru's bell housings, but the bottom is missing the awd bits that are right at the front of the tranny. Com to think about it, the output in the rear seems to be high up relative to the top of the bell housing, like it would be for an engine that is mounted very low in the chassis.

10-08-2010, 01:55 PM	#13
jay4prez The Inquisitor Join Date: Oct 2009 Drives: 92 Celica GT Convertible Location: NYC Posts: 129 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	RWD Only = Check looks like its made for low mounted engine = check Aisin Manual Trans = CHECK hmm, I'm almost sold, but I like where this is going so far, now only if we could get some pictures of our beloved's underbody for comparison

10-09-2010, 01:28 AM	#14
cloud9 SR20 S13 Join Date: Jan 2010 Drives: 240sx Location: Dresden Germany Posts: 20 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	so do we know its going to be a 6 speed yet? Not that i would assume otherwise but i just watched a "grand turismo" video and he got to 6th and it was the 1st ive seen or heard anything.

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