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WGMGR · 12-02-2014, 03:29 PM

For your car to sit at 1 rpm when you push in clutch at speed? (Like it won't drop to idle (0.7 to 0.6) untill you come to a fully stop?

Also does turning on the air make the car go from 0.7 rpms to 1 and slowly back down or is this not normal?

Tcoat · 12-02-2014, 03:43 PM

Well 1 rpm is never normal!
If you add 000 or 00 to the rest of what you said it is all perfectly normal and nothing to worry about at all.
At speed you are just not holding the clutch in long enough (and don't it is not a good thing to free wheel too much).
The AC compressor kicks in and out and causes the fluctuation.

8R6 · 12-02-2014, 03:52 PM

first manual transmission car?

FR-STY 86 · 12-02-2014, 03:58 PM

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Originally Posted by WGMGR

For your car to sit at 1 rpm when you push in clutch at speed? (Like it won't drop to idle (0.7 to 0.6) untill you come to a fully stop?

I have never held the clutch in while coasting, I think it may be extra wear on the throw bearings, so not sure. Just don't do that and there will be no problem =D

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Originally Posted by WGMGR

Also does turning on the air make the car go from 0.7 rpms to 1 and slowly back down or is this not normal?

Yes when parked w/ the AC on my tachometer behaves in the same way. Components of the AC must be belt driven, turn off for max SPD

I love noticing these types of intimate details.

WGMGR · 12-02-2014, 04:01 PM

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Originally Posted by BRGT86

first manual transmission car?

Yeah, first car in general. Had asked my dad and he said he thought it wasn't normal (he owns a passat v6 manual, 2002 though)

VakaGT · 12-02-2014, 04:04 PM

normal. hes talking about when you push the clutch in in between gears. yeah it drops to 1 (im assuming you mean x1000) or something.

Tcoat · 12-02-2014, 04:07 PM

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Originally Posted by VakaGT

normal. hes talking about when you push the clutch in in between gears. yeah it drops to 1 (im assuming you mean x1000) or something.

If you are dropping your revs to 1000 between gears you are not driving this car right!

that_one_guy · 12-02-2014, 04:07 PM

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Originally Posted by WGMGR

Yeah, first car in general. Had asked my dad and he said he thought it wasn't normal (he owns a passat v6 manual, 2002 though)

Neither you nor your dad understand why you do what you do when you drive your manual car. That's ok, but if you read up on what is happening when you engage the clutch pedal, shift gear, release clutch pedal, and how your engine builds power, most of these types of questions will be answered before you even think of asking them.

WGMGR · 12-02-2014, 04:09 PM

I'm not talking I drop it to 1000 while actually driving but if you hold the clutch I thought it should go to idle not 300 above idle

I guess I didn't write the Op right. I meant hold it in at speed not just pushing and shift (obviously I'm not dropping to 1000 to just shift. I wouldn't get anywhere!)

VakaGT · 12-02-2014, 04:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Tcoat

If you are dropping your revs to 1000 between gears you are not driving this car right!

I dont, but im assuming he hold clutch and lets it drop or something weird, seems like a new manual driver?

im just saying if he WERE to do that it would drop to right about there before he shifts, maybe a bit higher

edit: but yeah this guys right, O.P. you should be shifting much quicker and definitely not waiting for the RPMs to drop anywhere near that low before you shift. Practice in a large parking lot..

Reaper · 12-02-2014, 04:15 PM

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Originally Posted by WGMGR

For your car to sit at 1 rpm when you push in clutch at speed? (Like it won't drop to idle (0.7 to 0.6) untill you come to a fully stop?

Also does turning on the air make the car go from 0.7 rpms to 1 and slowly back down or is this not normal?

Yes. It will not idle when pushing the clutch in at speed. It's not designed too. You also shouldn't do that.

VakaGT · 12-02-2014, 04:15 PM

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Originally Posted by WGMGR

I'm not talking I drop it to 1000 while actually driving but if you hold the clutch I thought it should go to idle not 300 above idle

I guess I didn't write the Op right. I meant hold it in at speed not just pushing and shift (obviously I'm not dropping to 1000 to just shift. I wouldn't get anywhere!)

you shouldn't be "holding it in at speed"

Throw down the clutch and shift, essentially after gear 2-3 you can basically pop the clutch as you're shifting... you dont need to baby it.

Gords_zenith · 12-03-2014, 02:14 AM

He's talking about when coming to a stop, not when shifting!

Yes it's normal, I don't know why it's like that but my truck does the same thing, my guess is if have to let the clutch out in an emergency it shouldn't stall right away but rather chug, which could save you from being hit.

Ultramaroon · 12-03-2014, 02:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Tcoat

Well 1 rpm is never normal!

What about these?

12-02-2014, 03:29 PM	#1
WGMGR Member Join Date: Dec 2014 Drives: WRB Limit BRZ 2015 Location: Tennessee Posts: 29 Thanks: 0 Thanked 5 Times in 5 Posts Mentioned: 2 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	IS IT NORMAL For your car to sit at 1 rpm when you push in clutch at speed? (Like it won't drop to idle (0.7 to 0.6) untill you come to a fully stop? Also does turning on the air make the car go from 0.7 rpms to 1 and slowly back down or is this not normal?

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WGMGR Member Join Date: Dec 2014 Drives: WRB Limit BRZ 2015 Location: Tennessee Posts: 29 Thanks: 0 Thanked 5 Times in 5 Posts Mentioned: 2 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	I'm not talking I drop it to 1000 while actually driving but if you hold the clutch I thought it should go to idle not 300 above idle I guess I didn't write the Op right. I meant hold it in at speed not just pushing and shift (obviously I'm not dropping to 1000 to just shift. I wouldn't get anywhere!)

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Gords_zenith Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2012 Drives: WRB BRZ Sport Tech Location: Durham, Canada Posts: 354 Thanks: 178 Thanked 110 Times in 64 Posts Mentioned: 3 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	He's talking about when coming to a stop, not when shifting! Yes it's normal, I don't know why it's like that but my truck does the same thing, my guess is if have to let the clutch out in an emergency it shouldn't stall right away but rather chug, which could save you from being hit.

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