What will be the first big complaint about the FR-S?

[DeeezNuuuts83]

Originally Posted by Dadhawk

Mileage would be my first guess since the first owners will probably drive more aggressively than the EPA testings.

I disagree. Not that I doubt that people will see lower mpg due to more aggressive driving (especially in this kind of a car that begs you to push harder), but seeing how it's a more enthusiast-oriented car, more of its potential owners (compared to other cars in its price range and/or vehicle classification) are into cars enough to understand that a more aggressive driving style will result in lower fuel economy... or maybe they won't care at all, since it's unlikely that this car would return piss-poor mpg even when driven spiritedly. A turbocharged version would be a different story though.

Originally Posted by Marloon

I already have so many complaints
- stiff hvac knobs
- poor quality hvac

But I assume that you are referring to the FR-S and/or the BRZ Premium, correct? Those standard Scion/low-end Toyota knobs suck to begin with. I think it's a given.

[MrFRsLa]

Originally Posted by Eurasianman

Hopefully none of the issues my Cobalt SS had... body roll causing the driver and passenger door to rub against the frame, rear brakes being replaced with less than 20,000 miles on them, e-brake not working, both head lights having condensation build up, rear bumper not being mounted properly on the rear panel sides, etc.

Note: I bought this car in March 2010 and I have had more issues than what was stated above, including a turbo spooling issue where the turbo was actually replaced, along with the MAP sensors. All under 30,000 miles on the odometer.

Chevrolet

Cheap Heap Every Valve Rusts Oil Leaks Every Time

[Kimsey47]

Originally Posted by K2

I think we've heard all the major complains already.

Under powered
Over priced
Prius tires
Small back seat
Cheap plastic interior
No HID/LED headlights
No push button ignition
No electronic climate control
No high end head unit
No armrest...

What happened to "Scion badge?" Just feeding the troll people! Just feeding the troll!

[MrFRsLa]

Originally Posted by K2

I think we've heard all the major complains already.

Under powered - soon to find out. mines getting moded anyway

Over priced - idk i think its fair. but thats coming from a guy that sells them

Prius tires - smoke these pieces of dirt off within the first 1,000. A problem no longer.

Small back seat- track car? back seat, we don't need no stinking back seat

Cheap plastic interior - soon to find out.

No HID/LED headlights - I am with you here. Not standard to keep cost low. remeber overpriced?

No push button ignition - probably will be on release series. Car enthusiast car = keys. No buttoms this isn't Xbox. Like the xB LOL

No electronic climate control - generally luxury car feature.

No high end head unit - will be available soon

No armrest... rest your arm in a sports car?

!!!

[tripjammer]

Originally Posted by Eurasianman

Hopefully none of the issues my Cobalt SS had... body roll causing the driver and passenger door to rub against the frame, rear brakes being replaced with less than 20,000 miles on them, e-brake not working, both head lights having condensation build up, rear bumper not being mounted properly on the rear panel sides, etc.

Note: I bought this car in March 2010 and I have had more issues than what was stated above, including a turbo spooling issue where the turbo was actually replaced, along with the MAP sensors. All under 30,000 miles on the odometer.

Yeah GM suck on their small cars, the Corvette and Camaro are pretty bullet proof for the engines and drive-trains though...

[tripjammer]

Originally Posted by Marloon

I already have so many complaints
- stiff hvac knobs
- poor quality hvac
- felt(like) cloth seats. My Hyundai elantra seats feels better in terms of tactility.

Other than those interior comforts, I like the car a lot.

They really should have gone with the Dual Zone climate control. Yeah you don't need dual zone in a small car, but all more expensive sports car have it from the 370Z and up....even cheap ass cars have dual zone automatic climate control. Its a $25k car dammit. Oh and I don't care what people say, the car should have had HID with LED daytime running lights. It had LED taillights?

But you know all of this will be in the 2014 model year.....they will update the crappy seat cloth too....but hey can't you get the seats done like Greddy did?

[DeeezNuuuts83]

^ Or maybe not necessarily dual climate control, but at least the same HVAC knobs.

[reni]

I think the first big common problem will be all the crashes from kiddies trying to drift... the car is cheap enough that some young kids will be able to convince their parents to get them one, or make the payments from their minimum wage jobs

[ichitaka05]

Originally Posted by reni

I think the first big common problem will be all the crashes from kiddies trying to drift... the car is cheap enough that some young kids will be able to convince their parents to get them one, or make the payments from their minimum wage jobs

Hey more spare parts on my way for me~! c'mon stupid kids, keep on crashing & complain it's not drifting like Ken's FR-S! LMAO

[Dadhawk]

Originally Posted by tripjammer

Yeah GM suck on their small cars, the Corvette and Camaro are pretty bullet proof for the engines and drive-trains though...

Yea, I'd have to say the same thing for their trucks. I've owned two Chevy Astros that I drove over 500K miles between them with the original engines and trannys, and no really major repairs on either. I will say though when they died, they died hard!

[dsgerbc]

Insurance premiums?

[Dadhawk]

Originally Posted by DeeezNuuuts83

I disagree. Not that I doubt that people will see lower mpg due to more aggressive driving (especially in this kind of a car that begs you to push harder), but seeing how it's a more enthusiast-oriented car, more of its potential owners (compared to other cars in its price range and/or vehicle classification) are into cars enough to understand that a more aggressive driving style will result in lower fuel economy... or maybe they won't care at all, since it's unlikely that this car would return piss-poor mpg even when driven spiritedly. A turbocharged version would be a different story though.

Good point, sir. Also, it looks like from PD's early reports, its not really an issue anyway.

[Spaceywilly]

It's built by Subaru, so I'm guessing people will complain about the same things they complain about with every other Subaru:
-squeaks and rattles in the dash and doors
-some condensation in some kind of light somewhere
-cheap interior parts
-there is a monkey living in the trunk
-weak horn

[K2]

Originally Posted by K2 and MrFRsLa

I think we've heard all the major complains already.
Under powered - soon to find out. mines getting moded anyway
Over priced - idk i think its fair. but thats coming from a guy that sells them
Prius tires - smoke these pieces of dirt off within the first 1,000. A problem no longer.
Small back seat- track car? back seat, we don't need no stinking back seat
Cheap plastic interior - soon to find out.
No HID/LED headlights - I am with you here. Not standard to keep cost low. remeber overpriced?
No push button ignition - probably will be on release series. Car enthusiast car = keys. No buttoms this isn't Xbox. Like the xB LOL
No electronic climate control - generally luxury car feature.
No high end head unit - will be available soon
No armrest... rest your arm in a sports car?
!!!

Of course, none of this is stopping me from buying one. Come on June!