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[juliog]

Originally Posted by blue cat

What's a safe procedure for bedding in of pads before and after track time performance wise?

SWAPPING BETWEEN STREET AND TRACK BRAKE PADS
http://www.essexparts.com/learning-c.../swapping_pads

[fatalelement]

Originally Posted by CSG Mike

I think you'd be better served with some bolt-ons and a tune than a final drive.

What kind of times were you running?

I have a drop in filter and nameless exhaust, should I do a CAI? I forgot to get a transponder and my phone thing didn't work right so short of reviewing my gopro footage and manually figuring out a time I won't know

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[DarkSunrise]

Originally Posted by fatalelement

To be thorough, in my last lap I tried practically every shift point from 6000 (low IMO) to bouncing off the rev limiter. Over 10 shifts, probably. They all were a bit slow when I was coming off an apex into a straight. I'm a bit new to the track but it's also an AT so my gearing is a bit different.

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The reason I was asking about RPM is if you're starting to apply power at ~4000 RPM in 2nd gear coming off the apex, a tune and UEL header will do wonders to fill out the torque dip there. Easy 15-20 lb-ft gain in that area. That might be more effective than changing out the FD ratio.

I think CSG Mike beat me to the punchline though lol.

[blue cat]

Yeah after two track days it's gotten really bad. Haven't got around to re-bedding yet. Will try it first but I'm not confident it will go back to silent

[ExxelDistributions]

I will be doing my first track event this sunday. Just wanted to ask couple questions since I pretty much read this whole thread.

My current setup is stock tires and wheels, kw v3's with stock top mounts, whiteline camber bolts, spl rear lower control arms, RBF600 brake fluid, changed my engine oil with motul 8100 0-20 1,000 miles ago also transmission & diff have motul gear 300 about 1,000 miles ago. Everything else is stock except for having a greddy evo 3 exhaust.

1. what would be the tire pressure i should be running? When you guys say for example 36-38psi hot, does this mean go around 3-4 laps come off check tire pressures and go back or what?

2. as a beginner will stock pads be ok with the rbf600 fluid?

3. my kw v3 rebound & compression are set to the stock setting that kw sends them with. Will this be a problem?

4. reading all the stuff about the DI seal issue. Will I have any problems at the track since I havent taken the car to the dealer for this yet or experienced the problem. I'm just wondering if tracking the car will bring up the problem or not and what can I do to prevent it from happening.

[Doozer]

Originally Posted by fatalelement

So I have a track question - for reasons that are entirely legitimate, I went with the AT (I can drive MT quite well, but this is my daily in terrible high grade stop and go traffic, among other reasons) and I know this means I lose about 8-10 hp from what I've seen on the dynos and I'm sure a couple other lower stats. I know the gearing is different, but is the final drive as well?

I was at auto club speedway this past weekend and while I was able to hold speed with much faster cars due to the handling when in twistier sections, my acceleration out of harder corners wasn't good despite me always keeping my shifts, from what I understand, good and being in the power band.
For me, when coming out of 2nd I feel like I spend a bit of time just working my way out of a low rpm range and that's where everyone else with more HP shoots away.
I know part of this is the fact that this car isn't a gt3 or a zr1, but I feel like there's spots where I'm wasting time not at high rpm and I can't get there fast enough.
I was thinking about changing the final drive - nothing TOO drastic as it's still my daily but to something that would help me get up to higher revs faster. I'm not too worried about my top speed, so do you think this is a wise choice?
Thanks!

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With our AT (only thing available here) we ordered a 5.1 final drive gear set from Japan. With the AT it ends up being around the same final as a MT. One of the biggest differences we saw in terms of lap times.

If you have a good mechanic to install, it's another option to think about.

http://www.autofactory.jp/product/to...&cate=7&seq=19
http://www.autofactory.jp/product/to...&cate=7&seq=16

if you use google chrome it can auto translate for you

[ddeflyer]

Originally Posted by revolutioN21

I will be doing my first track event this sunday. Just wanted to ask couple questions since I pretty much read this whole thread.

My current setup is stock tires and wheels, kw v3's with stock top mounts, whiteline camber bolts, spl rear lower control arms, RBF600 brake fluid, changed my engine oil with motul 8100 0-20 1,000 miles ago also transmission & diff have motul gear 300 about 1,000 miles ago. Everything else is stock except for having a greddy evo 3 exhaust.

1. what would be the tire pressure i should be running? When you guys say for example 36-38psi hot, does this mean go around 3-4 laps come off check tire pressures and go back or what?

2. as a beginner will stock pads be ok with the rbf600 fluid?

3. my kw v3 rebound & compression are set to the stock setting that kw sends them with. Will this be a problem?

4. reading all the stuff about the DI seal issue. Will I have any problems at the track since I havent taken the car to the dealer for this yet or experienced the problem. I'm just wondering if tracking the car will bring up the problem or not and what can I do to prevent it from happening.

Regarding tire pressures, what people mean by hot pressure is what they aim to be at when they come in. Over time you get a good idea where to start in the morning and you adjust throughout the day. That said, since this is your first track day, it is unlikely you will get substantial amounts of heat into the tires (it is possible, but most people don't). You would be best leaving your tires at stock pressure (ie 36 psi) and seeing what they do through the day; if they start to go up beyond 38 then you might take some out.

Like tire pressure, you will probably be OK with stock pad compounds, though it matters alot what track you are going to. Some tracks put alot more heat into the brakes than others, so tell us what track you are hitting up and we can tell you more. That said, stock tires help to not put as much heat into the brakes as stickier rubber.

Someone else will have yo guide you some on the shocks, I am not experienced with non-stock springs/dampers.

Assuming that your signature reflects the car you are taking to the track (ie. a 2014 monogram) and you are on the stock tune that came with it, then you should be ok with the DI seal issue. The common cause of DI seal failure under track conditions was fixed on cars produced after May of 2013 or some such (double check your manufacturing date to be sure). At the same time, if you hear a popping noise from the engine bay (or really any strange noise) then you should come off track! You won't help any problems with the car by continuing to run it hard for the rest of your session.

[CSG Mike]

Originally Posted by revolutioN21

I will be doing my first track event this sunday. Just wanted to ask couple questions since I pretty much read this whole thread.

My current setup is stock tires and wheels, kw v3's with stock top mounts, whiteline camber bolts, spl rear lower control arms, RBF600 brake fluid, changed my engine oil with motul 8100 0-20 1,000 miles ago also transmission & diff have motul gear 300 about 1,000 miles ago. Everything else is stock except for having a greddy evo 3 exhaust.

1. what would be the tire pressure i should be running? When you guys say for example 36-38psi hot, does this mean go around 3-4 laps come off check tire pressures and go back or what?

2. as a beginner will stock pads be ok with the rbf600 fluid?

3. my kw v3 rebound & compression are set to the stock setting that kw sends them with. Will this be a problem?

4. reading all the stuff about the DI seal issue. Will I have any problems at the track since I havent taken the car to the dealer for this yet or experienced the problem. I'm just wondering if tracking the car will bring up the problem or not and what can I do to prevent it from happening.

1. Yup, you got it!

2. They'll be marginal; plan on upgrading before your second track day. You're better of getting pads now, and saving your OEM pads as backup, since cooked pads are no fun, even as a backup pad.

3. You'll probably be underdamped, and while this may slightly hinder your learning, you'll have so many other things to focus on that having proper damper settings is a secondary concern.

4. What is the production date of your car? Check your driver's door jam.


I happen to be available for coaching/setup this weekend, if professional instruction and setup is something you're interested in. If you have me with you, you absolutely want to have pads on.

[ExxelDistributions]

Originally Posted by CSG Mike

1. Yup, you got it!

2. They'll be marginal; plan on upgrading before your second track day. You're better of getting pads now, and saving your OEM pads as backup, since cooked pads are no fun, even as a backup pad.

3. You'll probably be underdamped, and while this may slightly hinder your learning, you'll have so many other things to focus on that having proper damper settings is a secondary concern.

4. What is the production date of your car? Check your driver's door jam.


I happen to be available for coaching/setup this weekend, if professional instruction and setup is something you're interested in. If you have me with you, you absolutely want to have pads on.

I do plan on getting pads by my second track day. I was considering ordering some pads but I dont think ill have them in time to install them before the event.

Cars production date is 02-14.

Ill be at streets of willow on sunday. Not sure where I can get some pads you guys can recommend by sunday and if I have you as a coach that would be great.

Also thanks for all the help!

[CSG Mike]

Originally Posted by revolutioN21

I do plan on getting pads by my second track day. I was considering ordering some pads but I dont think ill have them in time to install them before the event.

Cars production date is 02-14.

Ill be at streets of willow on sunday. Not sure where I can get some pads you guys can recommend by sunday and if I have you as a coach that would be great.

Also thanks for all the help!

We have pads in stock, and can install them for you.

This can be done before Sunday

[fatalelement]

Originally Posted by Ring Leader

With our AT (only thing available here) we ordered a 5.1 final drive gear set from Japan. With the AT it ends up being around the same final as a MT. One of the biggest differences we saw in terms of lap times.

If you have a good mechanic to install, it's another option to think about.

http://www.autofactory.jp/product/to...&cate=7&seq=19
http://www.autofactory.jp/product/to...&cate=7&seq=16

if you use google chrome it can auto translate for you

Luckily I speak Japanese so I'll take a look at this. Weighing all my options - bolt ons are fine but it seems a final drive gives a huge change and since my nameless exhaust drones horribly at 70mph on the freeway, the shift a FD will give me off that exact rpm would be well worth some money too.

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[fatalelement]

Originally Posted by revolutioN21

I will be doing my first track event this sunday. Just wanted to ask couple questions since I pretty much read this whole thread.

My current setup is stock tires and wheels, kw v3's with stock top mounts, whiteline camber bolts, spl rear lower control arms, RBF600 brake fluid, changed my engine oil with motul 8100 0-20 1,000 miles ago also transmission & diff have motul gear 300 about 1,000 miles ago. Everything else is stock except for having a greddy evo 3 exhaust.

1. what would be the tire pressure i should be running? When you guys say for example 36-38psi hot, does this mean go around 3-4 laps come off check tire pressures and go back or what?

2. as a beginner will stock pads be ok with the rbf600 fluid?

3. my kw v3 rebound & compression are set to the stock setting that kw sends them with. Will this be a problem?

4. reading all the stuff about the DI seal issue. Will I have any problems at the track since I havent taken the car to the dealer for this yet or experienced the problem. I'm just wondering if tracking the car will bring up the problem or not and what can I do to prevent it from happening.

I ran auto club speedway (roval setup, kinda brake heavy as you exit a 120+ mph oval into a 10-20 mph 90 degree left turn) with stock pads and stock fluid. Didn't boil or anything. Did 2 hours of track time. You'll be fine especially with aftermarket fluid. Just make sure you figure out what brake fade feels like if you tend to brake hard (I was easier on them because I was all stock) and try and watch out for it before it's an issue.

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[car_roll]

Originally Posted by CSG Mike

4. What is the production date of your car? Check your driver's door jam.

They actually came up with a fix? What's the cutoff production date?

[ExxelDistributions]

Originally Posted by CSG Mike

We have pads in stock, and can install them for you.

This can be done before Sunday

installing them is not a problem for me. just getting the pads in time is my problem.