Feedback on suggested audio build - Toyota GR86, 86, FR-S and Subaru BRZ Forum & Owners Community

sgh · 10-30-2014, 08:16 PM

Hi all,

Firstly, I'm nowhere near as knowledgeable about car audio as I am about home audio. For this reason I went to a couple of local car audio dealers and discussed various options with them for my '15 FRS RS 1.0.

One has now come back to me with a quote for a build with suggested components. I'd appreciate a second (third, fourth, fifth, etc.) opinion on the setup they are proposing before I pull the trigger. I enjoy a wide variety of music from classic rock to trance and dubstep and sound quality is quite important to me. I wanted something with NAV although I probably won't use it a lot, and with Carplay (probably will use it a fair bit).

This is what they have suggested for my complete audio overhaul:
HU: Pioneer AVIC-8000NEX
SP: Focal 165KRX2 (fully active)
SW: 2 x JL 10TW3-D4
AMP: 2 x Alpine PDX-F6 (one for Focal's, one for JL's)
DSP: Audison Bit Ten

They will be building a custom enclosure for the subs.

Any thoughts on the above or alternative suggestions?

Thanks so much =)

JoeC · 10-30-2014, 08:34 PM

How much was the quote?

sgh · 10-30-2014, 08:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JoeC

How much was the quote?

Too high in my opinion, but that's for me to go back and haggle on =)

about $8k CAD including all installs, enclosure builds, amp mounting, all shop supplies, taxes and environmental levies. (about $7k USD)

JoeC · 10-30-2014, 09:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sgh

Too high in my opinion, but that's for me to go back and haggle on =)

about $8k CAD including all installs, enclosure builds, amp mounting, all shop supplies, taxes and environmental levies.

Wow, that seems like a lot of money. Good luck with the build though. I'm still curious because I'll likely upgrade my system at some point.

AtlasMick · 10-31-2014, 06:16 AM

Nope. Just buy the $1000 OEM Audio + and install headunit yourself.

football751 · 10-31-2014, 09:13 AM

There's also the $1500 OEM Audio+ Reference system that includes new door woofers and converts it to a 2-way system. That's the route I think I'm going. Looked at the custom route, but I don't think I can do better for the money, and I'm not willing to spend enough $7k on my system at this time.

Pat.Thornton · 10-31-2014, 01:58 PM

The best sound system for this car is a really nice uel header back exhaust lol

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simplicityinsound · 11-01-2014, 12:58 PM

the price is pretty fair IF you are getting a quality install....we do a lot of FR bulds in the 8-12k price point.

here is the tweeter going? the main thing i ask is that the KRX2 tweeter is pretty bright, and it could be accentuated in the stock location.

what shop is doing this btw?

b

sgh · 11-01-2014, 01:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by simplicityinsound

the price is pretty fair IF you are getting a quality install....we do a lot of FR bulds in the 8-12k price point.

here is the tweeter going? the main thing i ask is that the KRX2 tweeter is pretty bright, and it could be accentuated in the stock location.

what shop is doing this btw?

b

It's being done by Ralph's Radio in Vancouver.

Than you for responding =)

simplicityinsound · 11-02-2014, 12:12 AM

I can put out a feeler in our industry circle and see what.kind of feedback this shop has. If u want

sgh · 11-02-2014, 12:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by simplicityinsound

I can put out a feeler in our industry circle and see what.kind of feedback this shop has. If u want

That would be awesome, thank you so much =)

I'm still a week or so away from getting this done, so if I need to back away from this I still can.

simplicityinsound · 11-02-2014, 01:59 AM

Take this as pure subjective opinion....but they seem like a legit outfit.

sgh · 11-15-2014, 08:15 PM

Update from a visit to another shop:

Went to Sounds Good (for those that are local) - shop manager Ruben seemed far more knowledgeable and suggested the first shop always suggests the exact build I was quoted above.

Ruben suggest a build that was close one that he's in the process of doing for himself...

HU: Alpine INE-W957HD
SP: Morel Elate 603 3 way
SW: JL 13TW5v2-4
AMP: 2 x JL300/4v3 active (one for the Morel woofers, one for the Morel mids and tweets
AMP: JLXD600/1

Custom build for the sub and amps with a spare tire removal and presentation fiberglass box with plexiglass and custom etching and lighting (Ruben and I came up with some very unique ideas around the etching and lighting that could turn out pretty cool)

Tweeters will be placed on the A pillars rather than in the dash.

Price is likely going to be a little bit higher than my original quote. Installation and build time will be 3 to 4 days.

Thoughts on these components?

toast · 11-15-2014, 11:37 PM

Do you have an android phone? If you do and you are okay rooting it the Pioneer unit is the way to go. FULL (as in plug in your phone and drop it in the glove box) control of your phone from the head unit using a free app called ARUnchained. It is a hack of the Pioneer AppRadio app. Freaking wonderful. Full google voice commands, google maps, navigation, read texts and email, write texts and email with voice.

The focals sound great, never heard the Morels.

10-30-2014, 08:16 PM	#1
sgh Member Join Date: Oct 2014 Drives: 2015 FR-S RS 1.0 Location: Vancouver, BC, Canada Posts: 36 Thanks: 0 Thanked 15 Times in 8 Posts Mentioned: 1 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Feedback on suggested audio build Hi all, Firstly, I'm nowhere near as knowledgeable about car audio as I am about home audio. For this reason I went to a couple of local car audio dealers and discussed various options with them for my '15 FRS RS 1.0. One has now come back to me with a quote for a build with suggested components. I'd appreciate a second (third, fourth, fifth, etc.) opinion on the setup they are proposing before I pull the trigger. I enjoy a wide variety of music from classic rock to trance and dubstep and sound quality is quite important to me. I wanted something with NAV although I probably won't use it a lot, and with Carplay (probably will use it a fair bit). This is what they have suggested for my complete audio overhaul: HU: Pioneer AVIC-8000NEX SP: Focal 165KRX2 (fully active) SW: 2 x JL 10TW3-D4 AMP: 2 x Alpine PDX-F6 (one for Focal's, one for JL's) DSP: Audison Bit Ten They will be building a custom enclosure for the subs. Any thoughts on the above or alternative suggestions? Thanks so much =)

11-01-2014, 12:58 PM	#8
simplicityinsound Member Join Date: Sep 2012 Drives: 2010 Subaru LGT Location: San Jose, CA Posts: 75 Thanks: 2 Thanked 33 Times in 21 Posts Mentioned: 4 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	the price is pretty fair IF you are getting a quality install....we do a lot of FR bulds in the 8-12k price point. here is the tweeter going? the main thing i ask is that the KRX2 tweeter is pretty bright, and it could be accentuated in the stock location. what shop is doing this btw? b __________________ Mobile Electronics Magazine Top 100 Installer 2012-2013

11-02-2014, 12:12 AM	#10
simplicityinsound Member Join Date: Sep 2012 Drives: 2010 Subaru LGT Location: San Jose, CA Posts: 75 Thanks: 2 Thanked 33 Times in 21 Posts Mentioned: 4 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	I can put out a feeler in our industry circle and see what.kind of feedback this shop has. If u want __________________ Mobile Electronics Magazine Top 100 Installer 2012-2013

11-02-2014, 01:59 AM	#12
simplicityinsound Member Join Date: Sep 2012 Drives: 2010 Subaru LGT Location: San Jose, CA Posts: 75 Thanks: 2 Thanked 33 Times in 21 Posts Mentioned: 4 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Take this as pure subjective opinion....but they seem like a legit outfit. __________________ Mobile Electronics Magazine Top 100 Installer 2012-2013

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sgh Member Join Date: Oct 2014 Drives: 2015 FR-S RS 1.0 Location: Vancouver, BC, Canada Posts: 36 Thanks: 0 Thanked 15 Times in 8 Posts Mentioned: 1 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Update from a visit to another shop: Went to Sounds Good (for those that are local) - shop manager Ruben seemed far more knowledgeable and suggested the first shop always suggests the exact build I was quoted above. Ruben suggest a build that was close one that he's in the process of doing for himself... HU: Alpine INE-W957HD SP: Morel Elate 603 3 way SW: JL 13TW5v2-4 AMP: 2 x JL300/4v3 active (one for the Morel woofers, one for the Morel mids and tweets AMP: JLXD600/1 Custom build for the sub and amps with a spare tire removal and presentation fiberglass box with plexiglass and custom etching and lighting (Ruben and I came up with some very unique ideas around the etching and lighting that could turn out pretty cool) Tweeters will be placed on the A pillars rather than in the dash. Price is likely going to be a little bit higher than my original quote. Installation and build time will be 3 to 4 days. Thoughts on these components?

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toast Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2014 Drives: 14 BSP Edelbrock BRZ Location: Lon Gisland Posts: 806 Thanks: 113 Thanked 450 Times in 256 Posts Mentioned: 12 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Do you have an android phone? If you do and you are okay rooting it the Pioneer unit is the way to go. FULL (as in plug in your phone and drop it in the glove box) control of your phone from the head unit using a free app called ARUnchained. It is a hack of the Pioneer AppRadio app. Freaking wonderful. Full google voice commands, google maps, navigation, read texts and email, write texts and email with voice. The focals sound great, never heard the Morels.

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