Delicious Flash & GO Tunes for ALL FORCED INDUCTION Applications - Q&A

[Turdinator]

That is a nice flat torque curve @maxjedi it must be nice to drive.
@DeliciousTuning am i reading it right that after he installed the exhaust it ran leaner? Is that a concern?

[maxjedi]

Originally Posted by Turdinator

am i reading it right that after he installed the exhaust it ran leaner? Is that a concern?

I don't think AFRs should be discussed without real data from a wideband sensor. So I decided to provide some (with Invidia exhaust), from a single WOT run. Looks good to me, it's in the 11s with full boost:

"AFR" "Manifold Pressure PSI"
12.68693065 0.1408154688
13.00444038 2.348774272
12.87946899 3.20754053
12.61551843 4.270246433
12.46802472 5.332952335
12.49686427 6.232645256
12.96983291 7.213497832
13.31123827 8.235277071
13.44390021 8.644543705
13.11100938 9.62539628
12.82481117 10.03396924
12.21972992 10.68810218
12.064271 11.01551549
12.43012131 11.79242842
11.86651408 12.11914806
11.46550698 12.36470804
11.32570382 12.48679435
11.26775006 12.32378137
11.81844816 12.11914806

[Fizz]

Originally Posted by Turdinator

I am curious how the SBD kit will go with this tune compared to the ecutek and OFT tunes they offer with the kit. Can you post you impressions and maybe a dyno in future?

Hmm...isn't ecutek the preferred option when running FI? I've asked jamesm before if he could e-tune with OFT and he said not recommended, as it lacks many necessary features to do it safely. As much as I hate the ecutek model, I'd still be using them when I eventually go ahead with FI.

@maxjedi, is your F-N-G map "stock" as received, or did you need to get it revised or fine-tuned further after install?

[maxjedi]

Originally Posted by Fizz

@maxjedi, is your F-N-G map "stock" as received

Yes, those charts were done on the first file received from Bill, no additional tweaking.

[Turdinator]

Originally Posted by Fizz

Hmm...isn't ecutek the preferred option when running FI? I've asked jamesm before if he could e-tune with OFT and he said not recommended, as it lacks many necessary features to do it safely. As much as I hate the ecutek model, I'd still be using them when I eventually go ahead with FI.

@maxjedi, is your F-N-G map "stock" as received, or did you need to get it revised or fine-tuned further after install?

Not a good thread for it but there is an OTS tune for the SBD turbo kit from OFT. The F-N-G tune from Delicious appears to be smoother and make more power than the OTS Ecutek tune SBD provide, which makes more power than the OFT tune again.

[protpibe]

Peak power is great and all, but driveability is just as important imo. The FNG tune feels like an oem tune when driving around town

[Fizz]

Does anyone have a dyno comparison between the AVO Stg1 base map and the Flash-n-Go?

Also looking for reviews/comments from those who have switched from the AVO base map to FNG.

[DeliciousTuning]

Originally Posted by maxjedi

I don't think AFRs should be discussed without real data from a wideband sensor. So I decided to provide some (with Invidia exhaust), from a single WOT run. Looks good to me, it's in the 11s with full boost:

"AFR" "Manifold Pressure PSI"
12.68693065 0.1408154688
13.00444038 2.348774272
12.87946899 3.20754053
12.61551843 4.270246433
12.46802472 5.332952335
12.49686427 6.232645256
12.96983291 7.213497832
13.31123827 8.235277071
13.44390021 8.644543705
13.11100938 9.62539628
12.82481117 10.03396924
12.21972992 10.68810218
12.064271 11.01551549
12.43012131 11.79242842
11.86651408 12.11914806
11.46550698 12.36470804
11.32570382 12.48679435
11.26775006 12.32378137
11.81844816 12.11914806

We are working on some new developments now. Here is what we have in the works.

BETA Testing
- Closed Loop Boost Control

ALPHA Testing
- Closed Loop WOT Fuel Control

Development (coming 2015)
- Boost Control from your Android/iPhone device
- Desired Air/Fuel from your Android/iPhone device

More to come.

Cheers,
William Knose
Delicious Tuning

[weederr33]

Correct me if I'm wrong but this is how i've interpreted this tuning. If I bought a SC, say a JR SC, and needed to get tuning for it, this would work with it? Instead of using their tuning software?

[maxjedi]

Originally Posted by DeliciousTuning

BETA Testing
- Closed Loop Boost Control

Can you give more details about this ? Does it mean variable target boost depending on some sensor inputs ?

[cdrazic93]

in for the long haul. curious to see the reliability in long term testing

[qtwre]

Originally Posted by Fizz

Does anyone have a dyno comparison between the AVO Stg1 base map and the Flash-n-Go?

Also looking for reviews/comments from those who have switched from the AVO base map to FNG.

I don't have a dyno comparison but I can describe the difference I noticed. The AVO base map is ok, but the car feels like you've tacked a turbo onto it. It kind of jumps a bit around the boost transition. Acceleration could be smoother. The FNG map makes it feel like the car was built with a turbo. There is no noticeable transition into boost. The power just builds. Little throttle actions are a big difference too. I can't speak to the power difference because I installed a boost controller at the same time (why wouldn't you?) but I'm sure the FNG tune is more efficient.

[Fizz]

Originally Posted by qtwre

I don't have a dyno comparison but I can describe the difference I noticed. The AVO base map is ok, but the car feels like you've tacked a turbo onto it. It kind of jumps a bit around the boost transition. Acceleration could be smoother. The FNG map makes it feel like the car was built with a turbo. There is no noticeable transition into boost. The power just builds. Little throttle actions are a big difference too. I can't speak to the power difference because I installed a boost controller at the same time (why wouldn't you?) but I'm sure the FNG tune is more efficient.

Thanks, yeah I was going to ask about low speed driving with small throttle openings. Which boost controller are you using by the way?

I asked a local ecutek tuner about speed density tunes and he advised against it saying they're great for high hp applications with custom intakes, but the daily driving in traffic will suck.

[Fizz]

Ok stupid question time, but I'd like to know if there are any negative affects on the engine if i used say 93 octane fuel on a 91 map? Apart from lack of power of course...

And will I need to upgrade the map sensor to use FNG tunes? Or will the stock sensor be just fine?