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Old 10-01-2014, 05:30 PM   #7631
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We spent some time on the dyno today with the mythical TQ300 and 6K controller. Just like any other dyno day, things do not always go as planned. On the first "Stock" run with the supercharger removed my car threw the P0351 Coil pack one code. We are suspecting that the coil pack on the fritz has introduced some issues with the top end (Code would always come on above 6500-7000rpm). Although i wasn't datalogging(DOH!) i am also guessing that timing is being pulled a bit on the top. Looks like i will have to work a little more with @Shiv@Openflash on dialing in things a little more.

All in all we are very happy with the results once a couple of those gaps get filled in

All runs using 94octane. End results were 222hp and 193wtq which proved to be a big jump over where we were last year(red TQ250 line)

I apologize in advance, these runs were with wheel speed not engine RPM. Their engine RPM was not working correct. I have used the stock run so you can see where the dip normally is.






Lastly VS the pitiful stock run last time we were on the dyno!

Now that i am pouring though all the dyno's i can definetly see that it is pulling timing....after about the 4th run with bumps above 6500 it pulls about 10hp from 5500rpm onward. This results in less big bumps in power but also less peak power. Those dynos made between 212 and 216hp
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Impressive results @fenton cannot wait to see whats possible as the tune develops.
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Old 10-01-2014, 08:50 PM   #7633
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Impressive results @fenton cannot wait to see whats possible as the tune develops.
Thanks Gums. The tune is pretty good already just needs a little tweaking on the top end. Looking at the slope of the graph we may see 227 or so whp in ideal conditions with our Canadian gas.

People in the states may get better as there gas is usually better. 230 should be attainable with 93oct.

I think we are getting close to the knock threshold when adding none intercooled boost.

E85 should provide spectacular results
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Old 10-01-2014, 08:50 PM   #7634
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Woooooow that tq
That top end is very impressive
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Old 10-02-2014, 12:14 AM   #7635
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Hi FT86Club!

We spent some time on the dyno today with the mythical TQ300 and 6K controller. Just like any other dyno day, things do not always go as planned. On the first "Stock" run with the supercharger removed my car threw the P0351 Coil pack one code. We are suspecting that the coil pack on the fritz has introduced some issues with the top end (Code would always come on above 6500-7000rpm). Although i wasn't datalogging(DOH!) i am also guessing that timing is being pulled a bit on the top. Looks like i will have to work a little more with @Shiv@Openflash on dialing in things a little more.
The P0351 is a faulty Coil Pack 1. This results from the coil breaking down over time due to heat. Take it to the dealership with the code on and they should replace it. I believe it has something to do with the location of the overpipe which causes it to get heated more than the others. I have the issue only in 4th gear at about 7K+ on hot days so I can't get it to come on right now, but it has been documented.
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Thanks Gums. The tune is pretty good already just needs a little tweaking on the top end. Looking at the slope of the graph we may see 227 or so whp in ideal conditions with our Canadian gas.

People in the states may get better as there gas is usually better. 230 should be attainable with 93oct.

I think we are getting close to the knock threshold when adding none intercooled boost.

E85 should provide spectacular results

Very cool stuff fenton. I'm excited to see this product on e85.
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Old 10-02-2014, 09:53 AM   #7637
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Heads up to everybody communicating with Rob, and Rob, heads up to you ...

I think a spam bot virus may have gotten hold of your email. I just got an email from you that said "Hi, how are you?" and contains a link which I of course did not open.

Might want to change your password pronto.
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Fenton,

Do you the boost PSI numbers from the dyno?

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Old 10-02-2014, 04:32 PM   #7639
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The P0351 is a faulty Coil Pack 1. This results from the coil breaking down over time due to heat. Take it to the dealership with the code on and they should replace it. I believe it has something to do with the location of the overpipe which causes it to get heated more than the others. I have the issue only in 4th gear at about 7K+ on hot days so I can't get it to come on right now, but it has been documented.
Any idea if a ceramic coated OP resolves this? If not perhaps a heat shield?
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Old 10-02-2014, 06:13 PM   #7640
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Awesome with updated waiting list

This might be a silly question, but are there estimates to the influence the Phantom ESC has on 0-60 and 1/4 mile times compared to stock?
80 to 120 kmt is also a very noteworthy comparison with regards to passing power.
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Any idea if a ceramic coated OP resolves this? If not perhaps a heat shield?

On the stock header none of this is needed. Most issues arise when an aftermarket header is added. I would imagine either would help though.
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I actually completely forgot to take video. I forgot a lot of things apparently lol.
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Looks good fenton. But that lumpy top end isn't likely to be tune related. But rather a symptom of ignition break-up caused by the faulty coil. Just replace the coil and re-dyno. You'll make more power
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