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Old 09-30-2014, 01:34 PM   #15
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The fact that you have stated this leads me to believe that you should not be playing around with custom valving. The acting spring rates are lower at the rear despite those numbers.

You still haven't said what it is you don't like about your current suspension.
This all day. If you dont already understand the wheel rates of the car than custom valving is a waste of your money. You wont know the difference between stock valving and the custom valving.

Get a set of bilstein shocks, and a set of RCE yellow, Swifts, or RCE tarmac springs and youll be fine.
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What do you tell people when trying to get them to custom-valve a shock for you anyway? Like, "I have an xxxxxx with yyyyyyy on it," or "Can it be 40% softer than this," or do you just hand them a dyno chart and say "This."
Depends on who you're talking to mostly.

With Bilstein you at least give them your spring rates and they can work from there. You can give more info, like how you use your car (auto-x, track, daily driver) and any other tidbits like you want a lot of rear grip coming out of slow corners. You can also tell them you want X lbs of rebound at 2 inches per second or you want your main springs to be 70% critically damped in rebound at that piston velocity. You can be a little more general and say you want a controlled ride with a good amount of digressive compression and hope they'll try to make you happy.

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Old 09-30-2014, 04:09 PM   #17
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The fact that you have stated this leads me to believe that you should not be playing around with custom valving. The acting spring rates are lower at the rear despite those numbers.

You still haven't said what it is you don't like about your current suspension.
Interesting. I pretty much get how motion ratios effect spring rate, but does it not work the same way for shocks?
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I think the consensus is that the OEM spring rate is generally fine, but the OEM shock absorbers are too tight for the OEM springs.
Really? Everything I've read has it going the other way. The OEM struts are great, but the springs aren't a good match. That's why RCE, Swift, Eibach, Hotchkis, etc... all make slightly stiffer springs that better match the OEM struts.

Cheaper, too. $300 for a set of springs vs. $900 for struts and another $400 for revalving.
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Contact MCA, Ohlins or Penske they will custom make you something to your needs, expect a big ol' dollar sign attached to your bill though.


those are the BIG names


there are plenty of companies that custom valve their shocks in their own shops for race teams


they're usually off the beaten path though, and for whatever reason have very poor marketing.
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Really? Everything I've read has it going the other way. The OEM struts are great, but the springs aren't a good match. That's why RCE, Swift, Eibach, Hotchkis, etc... all make slightly stiffer springs that better match the OEM struts.

Cheaper, too. $300 for a set of springs vs. $900 for struts and another $400 for revalving.


The OEM struts are not great. They are properly functioning.


By upgrading to a lowering spring on OEM shocks you get to enjoy some of the benefits of lowering the car along with increased roll resistance and response improvement, but the control of the car remains the same... ie, the characteristic of the shock.


but a custom shock with an alternative approach to rebound/compression @ high/low speeds is an entirely different animal.
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The set for 4 is $875. The revalve is $420 ($220 for the front $200 for the back) + $375 swift springs and reuse OEM tophats...camber bolts? $20-40 thats roughly $1600-1700 at the most
The OP said he could get 2 sets of dampers for the price of a coilover...hence my calculation for purchasing and revalving 8 pieces. He also said he wanted to use the OEM springs.
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The OP said he could get 2 sets of dampers for the price of a coilover...hence my calculation for purchasing and revalving 8 pieces. He also said he wanted to use the OEM springs.
Two sets?? Oh hell no. KWV3 or RCE T2 at that price range...
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