Cosworth Power Packs pricing - Page 9 - Toyota GR86, 86, FR-S and Subaru BRZ Forum & Owners Community

Kodename47 · 09-29-2014, 01:35 PM

Someone I know has got the 1.1 here in the UK, initial thought are that it's good and having spent a day on Millbrook Proving Grounds with said car it sounds good too.

weederr33 · 09-29-2014, 06:24 PM

I want the Stage 1.2 kit but I just don't know... gotta see what 2 and 3 are

MAPerformance · 09-29-2014, 07:04 PM

Just spoke to a guy today who has the 1.3 kit installed. Sent me a dyno as well. This is on an auto FRS.

EAGLE5 · 09-29-2014, 08:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MAPerformance

Just spoke to a guy today who has the 1.3 kit installed. Sent me a dyno as well. This is on an auto FRS.

Looks miserable for the money.

Dipstik-sportech · 09-29-2014, 08:06 PM

Wow for over 5 grand he gained 25hp!!! $208 per whp, that has to be the worst HP/$ yet for these cars. I'm sorry but you're paying for the name and not much else.

Oh wait the pretty Cosworth plaque makes up for it right? At least you'll be exclusive lol

sofargone561 · 09-29-2014, 08:07 PM

I love cosworth i think most people do but i agree with the masses here. You are paying out the ass for the cosworth name. For the price i would never even consider them.

D_Thissen · 09-29-2014, 08:47 PM

*shaking head*. Paying 4000 for that sticker.

jmsaxon69 · 09-30-2014, 12:37 AM

Yes, not too impressive if it's the full 1.3 kit. For those of you that seem to know, what would you expect that gear to give as far as WHP? Don't take cost into it at all, just part for part on the 1.3 kit.

Ernie L · 09-30-2014, 01:01 AM

..doesn't anyone else think the base run of 136 hp is low .

The usual dynojet results for a stock 86 run around 150-160 hp at the rear wheels.

I would think adding the 29 hp gain of the kit to the average 160hp would be more like the gains you could expect with a full exhaust and a tune. In other words 189 horse power.
Cosworth claims 230 at the crank for the 1.3 I believe...so 230 minus the parasitic losses ( alternator, starter, water pump,A/C compressor, all idler and tensioner pulleys, etc) would be around 190-200 hp at the crank.
I would be interested to see this same car on another dyno..

EAGLE5 · 09-30-2014, 01:59 AM

It's about an 18% power boost. It would take a 155whp car to 183whp. Less money can yield a hell of a lot more.

abraxis · 09-30-2014, 03:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ernie L

..doesn't anyone else think the base run of 136 hp is low .

The usual dynojet results for a stock 86 run around 150-160 hp at the rear wheels.

Doesn't matter. What matters is using a consistent baseline for reference to compare results and determine a delta. A base dyno run could read 80hp for all I care as long as it's consistent and shows repeatable improvements or losses that make sense.

abraxis · 09-30-2014, 03:55 AM

Why are you guys shocked at the dyno results? It's >18% which is more than what Cosworth advertises on page 1 of this thread for 1.3. What's the surprise exactly?

-Tom- · 09-30-2014, 04:20 AM

It's probably worth noting that the badge you get isn't just a sticker, it's made by a local jewellers. Wow indeed right?

From the presentation they made at their HQ, my analysis is that they allocated way too much development time for the exhaust system and mapping, and with that, too much money spent. Why couldn't they just realise that everyone else uses a 2.5" exhaust for an N/A application for a reason? Why did they have to find out for themselves.

abraxis · 09-30-2014, 04:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by -Tom-

It's probably worth noting that the badge you get isn't just a sticker, it's made by a local jewellers. Wow indeed right?

From the presentation they made at their HQ, my analysis is that they allocated way too much development time for the exhaust system and mapping, and with that, too much money spent. Why couldn't they just realise that everyone else uses a 2.5" exhaust for an N/A application for a reason? Why did they have to find out for themselves.

Their complete upgrade path is for forced induction with the same exhaust...

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MAPerformance Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Drives: Asphalt FRS Location: Cottage Grove, MN Posts: 1,272 Thanks: 669 Thanked 981 Times in 540 Posts Mentioned: 84 Post(s) Tagged: 3 Thread(s)	Just spoke to a guy today who has the 1.3 kit installed. Sent me a dyno as well. This is on an auto FRS.

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jmsaxon69 Member Join Date: Sep 2014 Drives: 2015 Subaru BRZ Series.Blue Location: Atlanta Posts: 28 Thanks: 4 Thanked 12 Times in 8 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Yes, not too impressive if it's the full 1.3 kit. For those of you that seem to know, what would you expect that gear to give as far as WHP? Don't take cost into it at all, just part for part on the 1.3 kit.

09-30-2014, 01:01 AM	#121
Ernie L Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2014 Drives: 2014 BRZ black premium Location: NH USA Posts: 154 Thanks: 37 Thanked 84 Times in 42 Posts Mentioned: 2 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	..doesn't anyone else think the base run of 136 hp is low . The usual dynojet results for a stock 86 run around 150-160 hp at the rear wheels. I would think adding the 29 hp gain of the kit to the average 160hp would be more like the gains you could expect with a full exhaust and a tune. In other words 189 horse power. Cosworth claims 230 at the crank for the 1.3 I believe...so 230 minus the parasitic losses ( alternator, starter, water pump,A/C compressor, all idler and tensioner pulleys, etc) would be around 190-200 hp at the crank. I would be interested to see this same car on another dyno..

09-30-2014, 03:55 AM	#124
abraxis Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2014 Drives: many Location: here Posts: 487 Thanks: 190 Thanked 279 Times in 152 Posts Mentioned: 5 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Why are you guys shocked at the dyno results? It's >18% which is more than what Cosworth advertises on page 1 of this thread for 1.3. What's the surprise exactly?

09-30-2014, 04:20 AM	#125
-Tom- Member Join Date: Jul 2014 Drives: Grey GT86 Location: Derbyshire UK. Posts: 63 Thanks: 11 Thanked 39 Times in 19 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	It's probably worth noting that the badge you get isn't just a sticker, it's made by a local jewellers. Wow indeed right? From the presentation they made at their HQ, my analysis is that they allocated way too much development time for the exhaust system and mapping, and with that, too much money spent. Why couldn't they just realise that everyone else uses a 2.5" exhaust for an N/A application for a reason? Why did they have to find out for themselves.

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